cheeseballs - February 26, 2011
this is cool i relllly what it
Phos - February 25, 2011
Lol, HoshikoYoukai is right. Clicking the trance potion above leads to a pop up that says "A user name and password are being requested by http://www.rescreatu.com. The site says: "Secret Place"" XD
Lilith - February 24, 2011
Sounds like your cookies must have expired right before you clicked, Hoshi. Once you've logged in again it shouldn't happen.
HoshikoYoukai - February 24, 2011
hey uh if you click on the trance potion it trys to ask for your username and password
Yaizhbeen - February 23, 2011
Yes that what I am saying. ONE item/month bought with TU. UNLIMITED items bought with credit. Not a replacement.
Jzbelle - February 23, 2011
I understand that, but I *think* you're saying that you should be able to buy a monthly-type item each month with Tu alone. That's what I thought we were trying to get away from, in order to encourage more cash donations. Tu purchases should supplement cash donations not replace them, imho.
Yaizhbeen - February 23, 2011
Well, my suggestion was somewhat different (^^;)...Limiting the purchasable credits is a way too, but that would be a pain with monthly changing items that cost more than 25 Credits (I mean, by the time you spare up enough Credits, it's not there anymore).
Jzbelle - February 23, 2011
YES, Yaizhbeen, I like limiting the amount of credits bought with Tu. I play on another site which implements this feature. On that site, there is a limit of 25 "credits" that can be purchased with the site currency each calendar month. On another site where I used to play, you could actually specify the Credit Shop currency and the site currency in your shop. (Example: You could put an Iluvu Creatu Egg in your Merchant shop for 1 mil Tu and/or 1 Credit. The customer could pay as they please.) Those little credit purchases by other users really added up. I don't know how well either of those sites is doing financially with their chosen CS method, but it would be an interesting question to ask on one of the VP Forums.
Yaizhbeen - February 23, 2011
As TU is really so easy to get, I think the real solution would not the increase in Credit/TU ratio, but a limitation of how much you can buy from CS, like the Black Market. Let's say, you could only get credits with real money, no way to exchange TU. But you could purchase items from CS with credits or TU (of course expensive like now). However if you pay with Credits, you can buy as many a month as you want. However with TU, you can only purchase ONE SET a month. Like: in January I bought 3 beans. In February: 3 CS eggs. etc. That way you could still buy what you really want, but you have to choose carefully, as maybe if I do not buy the CS eggs in January, they might be retired from CS by February. So I might decide to buy them early, and buy Name Tags from other users (mostly from those who purchase from Credits). Of course this would induce some multiple-account cheating, but might work^^.
Moe - February 23, 2011
I actually see the complete logic in this. I didn't see it when you raised the tu to credit rate before, but now I do. :o Thanks Pat, I hope you get more money to keep this site running!
MiaViper - February 23, 2011
AiCindy, i'm pretty sure to raise the price right after half a day (?) wasn't intended to begin with. But the need simply arose so staff acted. ----- A little worry i have with the "send credits like Tu" thing. It's pretty unsafe, don't you think? I'm far from trusting res-users like that anymore, Res is simply growing too much for that. --- And someone please explain to me why 50/75 tokens got retired alltogether? If you don't want people to get that small credit amount with TU, fine by me... but let it avaliable for credit-to-token exchanges? ... There is no way of adding credits to (Item)trades without credit-tokens, or is there?
Jzbelle - February 23, 2011
Allowing unrestricted purchase of credits with Tu was a mistake. Releasing the item with the wrong price was a mistake. Mistakes were made. Now they're fixed. It's arrogant and presumptive to "insist" that others not make mistakes (and then cover our virtual ears with our fingers and go "NOPE. NOT LISTENING." in case someone cares to retort). It *should* be hard to buy CS items with just Tu. As was stated previously, "Tu is free." And again, as was stated earlier, Tu is easy to make. The fact that some of you find it "boring" or wish there were other ways to make it doesn't change that. I personally enjoy the site, or I wouldn't be here. I want the site to prosper so it will be around. Servers and bandwidth can't be paid for with virtual currency like Tu. That's all.
AiCindy - February 23, 2011
Okay, so... I believe the word is spelt shenanigans - though I don't know why it is used when I'm just trying to give my opinion. Next, yes, staffs are not here to accommodate - me; however, I still insist that, next time the price of a product is to be increased so close after the initial release date, it should be made on the original update. Prices shouldn't rise like that pretty much straight after releasing. Perhaps a little extra charge for the next item, or next big item, to be released would be more considerable - yeah. This suggestion of mine accommodates everyone in my own opinion. I will end here and will not check back on any comments made to dispute.
Alchemist - February 23, 2011
:D Thanks for bringing them back so quickly.Yes,it is a bit disappointing that the price has been increased and stuff but I'm glad that we can still exchange tu for credit. :3 It would be quite difficult for those people who can't pay in cash for Credit shop items.
And Trance pets shall also be rarer than they would have otherwise been.Thanks again. |D
Pavnix - February 23, 2011
I'm kind of giggling at all these comments dissing people who can pay with money. =P Also, about the "fairness of those who bought it first"? I call shinanigans. Honestly, how in the bother are they supposed to accomodate you? It was a NEEDED change. Yeah, some people got it, just like how I managed to get an RRay from a Christmas Stocking Item instead of buying it in the Credit Shop. Know what that RRay cost me? $5. But you didn't see all the other RRay owners who originally got theirs through other means complaining that I got mine cheaper or easier. Sometimes this happens, and sure, it sucks if you didn't get in on it when the getting was good. But that's life and you have to make do with what you have. I didn't get any Trance potions when they were cheaper, but I'm not about to complain that someone else did and thus I should be reinbursed because I didn't cash in on it. As for the Credits thing, I've already stated my point down below about the divisibility/cow thing, and I'm pretty sure Pat accurately addressed that with the above statement of "You can totally transfer credits in small amounts in a few days!". Which means our complaining about THAT is pretty silly at this point because he's made a very decent compromise! The purchasing of Credits/obtaining of credits thing has been a long standing issue on Res that surfaces every now and then. I think now people are a bit more angry because the price went up, but do you guys know how much it takes to run a site? Ignoring that fact, money isn't some magically easy thing to come across, so making it a BIT better for those who buy it isn't a bad thing. Do you work for your money? Do you pay off your Visa? Sure, some people might have parents who give them the money no problem, but that's not everyone by any means. So yes, credits are more beneficial for those who spend MONEY, but you've ways of getting them still. And, hey, if you're lucky you won't be underage forever and you won't be unemployed forever! Ter made a great point to elaborate on: Tu is free. Tu can buy credits. This doesn't happen everywhere. Again, these are just my thoughts, but I do ask that people try to see both sides of the fence and see where the staff stand as far as balancing the game goes. (They love you guys, and they love Res. Sometimes they can't please both, but they always try, and they always try to do what's best. Commenting on things that are really confusing or bad is good, but constantly putting them down or undermining them isn't going to help either.)
Vallyandra - February 23, 2011
Agree with Yaizhbeen, not the price, but the Black Market that keeps other DKs rare. That is the REAL reason.
Harder and harder to get good stuff now, huh. I suppose the next thing is to just make every item and pets in this site bought with credits. That would be a perfect money maker for the site. Don't count us, the non VISA & Paypal user, in.
Yaizhbeen - February 23, 2011
Actually the reason why so many Trance pets appeared right after the potion's release is not that the potion was cheap. It cost exactly the same as any other basic dyes, you could see that when setting the price. The reason why so many got out to the game is that unlike the Black Market, users could buy them whenever they want as many as they want. No need to wait for restock, no Cain to kick you out. It's the Black Market system that keeps it at bay, not the price.
Micheila - February 23, 2011
Well it's possible, I invest in basically every stock I can. It's not hard to get used to stocks, and I usually can get 20mil from that every 4-5 days. Sometimes longer sometimes shorter ;o
zebez - February 23, 2011
Well, you don't get 20 mill every other day. more like, once every two weeks, depending on what you invest in. Though I wish there were flash games on this site. Quests are just...boring (though I do see their necessity to merchants). I want to have more interaction than just a click. But that requires a lot of money (which the two pack could help with).
fizzyizze - February 23, 2011
Ter, thank you SO. MUCH. -agreeee-
Have a little thankfulness, guys. Gratefulness. Empathy.
Micheila - February 23, 2011
Stocks may be one of the only ways to make TU but you can get HEAPS from them. I get 20mil every couple of days from just checking stocks twice a day. I like the idea of this update, thanks guys! (:
AiCindy - February 23, 2011
I don't care whatever or however the tu/credit exchange rates are now. What I feel is that this change should only occur in the NEXT UPDATE OF NEW STUFF. Not the trance potion which was already implemented - and many users have already bought it. It is absolutely unfair for those who did not buy it within the 2 days it was implemented. I seriously repeat this, if something needs to be changed, it always has to be the next new stuffs coming up, not changing something that has ALREADY BEEN RELEASED. Yeah.
Shallow - February 22, 2011
I only buy with real money. Over 300 dollars has gone into this site :)
Riot - February 22, 2011
I see how this can helpl Res get more money to support themselves, but I also see it unfair to those of use who are under-age, poor, or just don't have a paypal account or a credit card:/ Yes, I see how making the tu higher could worsten the chances for someone like me, but in reality, it shouldn't be /that/ hard to get the 25Mil for... 100 Credits? My real problem is the fact that many hundreds of users bought them when they were cheaper:/ I was very close to finally getting my first 50 tu not from actual tu, but from the "free ads" or whatever they are... That half don't work anyway... So, I support the prices rising for credits/tu, just not /that/ high. I also support raising the price of the potions, just not the fact that you have to buy them in two packs. That much really irked me...
o_O - February 22, 2011
You're right, it is limited, but it's also simple and easy, it's not even time consuming, people shouldn't rage so much about it.
Faction - February 22, 2011
The problem with the stock market is that that is virtually one of the ONLY ways you can earn tu. There aren't a variety of flash games, or games that have no play restrictions - unless you count the quests. But with quests, you need the tu first to buy the items. Even playing Rescreatu for a few years, I find that the ways to earn tu is very limited. And I do know that by trading/selling pets, you can get a good amount of TU. But our options are low enough already. However, I do agree that we should work to get the tu though.
Fizzeh - February 22, 2011
What on earth does the word "jank" mean? o_O;
o_O - February 22, 2011
...tu is free. ;x
o_O - February 22, 2011
So basically, everyone's complaining, because it's not easy anymore?
Lol.
How many sites can you name that let you purchase the alternate real-money currency with the in-game currency, which is easy to get? There are VERY few. TU IS FREE. IT. IS. FREE. YOU GET IT FOR FREE.
Stocks will make you literally hundreds of millions of tu with NO effort if you take the five seconds to figure out how they work, buy low, sell high, it's not hard, just do it.
95% of my credits are bought with tu, and I won't complain about this at all even if I'll be paying tens of millions more than I did before. It's not a big dealeo, makes perfect sense that they did this.
P.S. TU IS FREE
Anyway. I'm not a jerk, I swear. o_o
Flareboy123 - February 22, 2011
Well, I bought credits yesterday and bought three potions for what two cost now. And, I made two 50 credit tokens, sooo. ;A; Haha res. Haha.
zebez - February 22, 2011
Wow that's a pretty big hike in the credit price too. o_o Oh well.
zebez - February 22, 2011
The point of the two pack is to get people to spend more money. If you just want three potions you'll have to buy four or buy from other users.
Faction - February 22, 2011
Lol, I was only 10 credits away from the Trance back when they were 50. xD Anyways, I personally don't agree with the changes, but I understand the need for them very well; I hope with this change more people will spend more money to buy credits as I assume that was you have wanted or that the credit shop items will be much more rarer and exclusive as said in your update. I will probably opt to paying real cash because Tu is already hard enough to earn without resorting to commissions; but that's a different topic for later.
Patrick - February 22, 2011
And to your point Flareboy, the Credit Shop has not changed at all for the paying users. Purchasing credits from the Credit Shop with tu does not support Rescreatu in any way. It actually does the opposite. The fact that we allow players to obtain credits without paying real money is already a great thing for players by itself.
Patrick - February 22, 2011
A couple points to be made. Removing the 50 and 75 credit tokens will NOT effect you guys at all. You'll still be able to purchase those amounts of credits from players, as soon as we add the feature mentioned in the news post. And for those who think that credits will be a lot more expensive now, you are incorrect. Credits will be slightly more expensive, yes, but not that much more so. You have to give the market a couple days to account for these changes. Players will be selling credits appropriately soon, I am sure.
Kurou - February 22, 2011
VVVV Drindian for the win! lawls
Flareboy123 - February 22, 2011
How jank. Maybe Res should stop changing the credit shop, it's how res is supoported and no one is gonna want to support it when credits costs an arm and a leg. Back to changing the credit shop; why? Why not fix the forest or make the drindrian fat? These new changes are rediculous anyway. Okay, so, no buying credits with tu.. but now you can buy credits with tu! Just, you have to pay a rediculous ammount and have to pick a set ammount of credits. Gah, this is so dumb. Seriously, just dumb.
Breeze - February 22, 2011
Actually, now that I think about it, Rescreatu is an ever growing website. This is just my personal opinion, but even if you decrease the amount of people able to buy things like the Trance potion, there's still going to be a lot of people that will buy the item, but because of the overall population being big, the percentage would be small, though the number would not be...
Breeze - February 22, 2011
Interesting, mind-blowing logic. I'm glad I got my potion before this happened!
Dragonite8 - February 22, 2011
This is why I rarely play Res anymore; it's become so hard to get good items on here... :( And when you DO have good items that would have been extremely awesome before all these changes, no one cares.... -_-' For people like me who can't but items with real money, and who doesn't have a lot of tu, even when I save up, it's just become too hard to play Res any more... Oh, well, good luck to all the rest of you! Nice new item that I will drool over for the rest of eternity! XD
AiCindy - February 22, 2011
This is totally unfair to people who did not buy them before. How inconsiderate.
Star - February 22, 2011
Well... I was excited for the trance potions... now, I dont have any interest in them what so ever since I wont be able to get 50 mil to get enough credits for 2 potions (when I only want ONE, so that is a rip off if you ask me), guess I dont have any reason to stay on the site anymore, I was slowly losing my interest in it anyway, so I guess this is a good thing for me. Less stress in my life having to not worry about if I can afford something or not.
Personally, a rise in price for Credits would of been acceptable if it wasnt for a BULK buy, I much rather liked saving up for 4-6 Credits, then save up enough Tu to get another 4-6 credits.
On another note, retiring the 50 and 75 tokens was a stupid mistake and I see NO logical reason behind it other than you are wanting the price of items/eggs/etc... to be raised. =/
DecemberMoon - February 22, 2011
I was so close ;A;... Ah, well, I still think this is fair. I mean, most sites don't even have a site currency for credit trade option available; if you can't pay real money, you're plum out of luck. This at least gives hardworking players a chance at those potions. Having to buy a 200 credit token and having 50 credits left over after buying them will be annoying, though. >_>
Kurou - February 22, 2011
Glad I got mine before they went up. I get why the price of credits went up, but still... That means that CS pet eggs will go up now also when the next ones are released *gulp*
Thumpar - February 22, 2011
This is lame.
Zayn - February 22, 2011
But I do understand the reasoning behind the change. I do want trance pets to be rare. xD
Oakwind - February 22, 2011
What!? I just started saving up!
Zayn - February 22, 2011
That's NOT cool. So...the people who bought them before got them cheaper? Unfair. I don't like this.
AndreaQ - February 22, 2011
i can't do this now i will QUIET RES cuz this is not cool
DracoTarcheInazuma - February 22, 2011
oh gross. It jam packed my post together. It looks so unorganized. >__>
DracoTarcheInazuma - February 22, 2011
Just a bit of input:
I like how you actually have to pay real money for credits now.
It keeps the true definition of a 'Credit Shop.'
However, I see that many users can't buy the credits with real cash.
Yeah, there's the option of buying from other users. But the flat rate for credits makes things a whole lot easier.
One thing that could have been done is to limit how many credits you buy with tu.
And I must disagree with the retirement of the 50 and 75 credit tokens.
Conversions are so much harder like this, yes.
Why sell the Trance Potions in packs of two?
One potion sure is enough for one user; and if a user wants another, they can just buy one more.
I don't see the logic in that other than making users dish out more money [than they should have to] trying to get their hands on a potion.
But hey, all these things aside, this /is/ a good step in the right direction for this site. Sure makes a better source of income.
Yaizhbeen - February 22, 2011
Zada: I guess it was retired because noone would want to buy 50 or 75 Credit tokens at the price of 250000TU/credit anyway.
XAllurcore - February 22, 2011
Und the worth of one credit went up too? Omg.
Zada2011 - February 22, 2011
I hate to say but I think that retirement of the 50 and 75 credit token was an incredibly stupid thing to do. The main reason the tokens originally existed is for user transactions with credits. Now if I'm paying with credits I may have to pay with 100 credits for a pet that was only worth 75. I can see some of the other changes as good, however some make no sense to me at all.
Personally I couldn't care less if people who pay with tu instead of buying the credits have the fancy things to. Those users played the game enough for The items still have the same value but just in a different form. There really isn't anything to "preserve," when the items will retain the same value either way.
Witchy - February 22, 2011
I think this Is a great idea. :)
AriaKaye1 - February 22, 2011
Cool,I am all for that! Still 75 credits to switch classes..you just get the change back or is that price going to increase?
fizzyizze - February 22, 2011
I like the 50 and 75 credits. However, I support you fully still. May I say that a way to transfer credits would be extremely useful?
Mythalian - February 22, 2011
I find it rather irritating that the 50 and 75 credit tokens were discontinued. They were extremely important, as already adressed by others, for the credit exchange and trade between rescreatians. I understand how the Trance Potions caused a problem, and I am fine with the fact that their price was raised. I searched all Trance colored pets less than three hours after they were released, and I was surprised at the number of them. This is a good way to raise their worth. I just wish I still had a chance at getting any credits, but whatever XD
Yaizhbeen - February 22, 2011
Price increase within half a day... Umm... Nice? :(
Patrick - February 22, 2011
To take care of the divisibility problem we may add functionality to transfer credits without using tokens. You'll still need to buy the tokens, but you would be able to trade them in and transfer whatever number of credits you would like.
Pavnix - February 22, 2011
I'm actually a bit curious about the reasoning behind limiting divisibility options for credits. As Ciruelo mentioned, owing 150 credits is near impossible to pay now. Even if you paid the tu equivilant, some deals aren't strictly tu =/= credit, correct? (For example, using the 150 credits to buy two Trance Potions after the deal is struck - which I'd like to add, I have no qualms with the Trance Potion price increase, it was a logical means of handling the large increase of Trance dyed pets.)
While I'm not an active player, I am curious about this. I mean the whole reason currency topped selling the actual cow was because it was annonymous, portable, and divisible. You can't divide the cow without ruining it's value (in the sense that you can't sell two legs and then sell a grazing cow all the same). Even if you left the 50 and 75 tokens, that still means people can continue easily dividing their tu/money/what have you. By taking it all away you're either forcing them to charge twenty-five to fifty credits more, or less, than their original price. (So they're either decreasing their value, or inflating it.)
Those are my thoughts, anyways.
Lolbot - February 22, 2011
Derp. Looks like funky pets will have to wait for Mr.Lolbot. :c
Destrius - February 22, 2011
... Getting credits was hard enough before this change, you know? I don't have a VISA or anything, I can't buy it with real money. That 50credit price of the trance potion made me want to get credits with TU for the first time but this totally ruined it D:
Jzbelle - February 22, 2011
A step in the right direction, and I think the only reason you'll see complaint is because of the initial release at the cheaper rate. We've had new pets that weren't credit shop lately, and every other color is non-CS; this is reasonable. I'm glad to see effort put into maintaining a nice balance of CS/non-CS pets & perks on the site. :]
sugartush - February 22, 2011
:( shoulda bought mine sooner..
VivienneLilith - February 22, 2011
I suppose users who can't pay with real money are lucky to have any chance at all to buy credit shop things.
I just wish that I were rich enough to.
The Trance pets are gorgeous anyway, congratulations to all of the Res Staff! (I'm at a loss of what else to call you.)
Ciruelo - February 22, 2011
What if we owe someone, lets say, 150 credits.
How will we send the last 50 credits if we can only use 100+ credit tokens? It makes it very hard to do credit exchanges now :/
XAllurcore - February 22, 2011
Ehh. thought so. This just makes me bad day even worse. But whatever floats ya boat. o.o
prianamagix - February 22, 2011
Whoa. Credits are worth so much now!
PinkParadise - February 22, 2011
Noo I was so close to getting the money to get it :(
Outsane - February 22, 2011
Thanks for bringing them back so soon!
Rebellious - February 22, 2011
That's understandable. Glad to know what happy. Thank you Pat.♥
thenombersoo - February 22, 2011
Well, I'm glad I bought the trance potions when I did then.
Noryse - February 22, 2011
Sweet?
