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1:50pm Aug 1 2020 (last edited on 6:42pm Aug 12 2020)
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New creatu egg and creatu pricing
Okay, that's a thread about pricing the new creatu and that's totally my opinion. I think the prices are pretty fair and not overpriced. That's what I think they should be worth, I understand everyone wants the,, new things" first,but that ruins everything like it happened with mini Kir.
Eggs should be worth of 3 blessings 10,000,000-15,000,000 tu
And after some investigation A price varying of 5,000,000 - 10,000,000 tu for the work of the seller would be added.
Colours should be worth like 3 times the price of a seasonal creatu. I think the eggs are priced the same, seasonals are pretty much 3 or 4 mil each. Okay, so down are gonna be the NEW adjusted ROUGH prices.
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The prices were made after thinking what the effort is that people are doing to get the eggs. I must say that the ones that are only 2% to be hatched may vary depending on the seller / buyer.
Note that for achromatic I can't be that sure, because we don't know if Kir would want for them, but u totally hope Kir doesn't.. If he doesn't wants for them then they shouldn't be that pricey and maybe will be the price of a blonde/calico.
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2:20pm Aug 1 2020
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Your prices make sense but its kinda in vain rn, people won't magically unwant them, there's inevitably going to be hype and high demand for a little bit
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2:22pm Aug 1 2020
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Yeah, it totally will be hype for now. I mean I don't stop anyone from buying the eggs for the prices they can afford. Like I said, if I had billions in my bank, I could buy eggs for those prices too.
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2:28pm Aug 1 2020
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X3 I somewhat agree! Thanks for clearing prices up.
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6:21pm Aug 2 2020 (last edited on 6:25pm Aug 2 2020)
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This actually lines up very well with my thoughts in regards to the pricing on the egg. Me and Eiji were discussing the worth of the eggs just yesterday, and I told him that 1 egg would probably be worth around 15 mil since I generally charge 5 mil for a blessing.
People always overpay for things at first lol. It'll all calm down, and it's their tu to spend how they see fit. The hype must be dying a bit already because my shop has gone pretty much back to normal in terms of sales. |
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6:23pm Aug 2 2020
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in my opinion, I think that the prices for the lower colors are too low. The egg itself is 10-15mil, so I feel like the nattie should be somewhat higher and in that price range as well?
I do agree that the egg prices should cost around 3 blessings, that's a good price range!
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6:42pm Aug 2 2020
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Hey Ota! I like that you took initiative and shared your opinion of what the prices for the new creatu should be. With that being said, I'd like to point out a few details as to why I believe they should be priced higher: 1) They can't be beaned or springs dipped; this makes it harder for higher colors to be obtained.
2) Although they can be morphed, it might take a while to get one (just like Wyrae); you have a 1/20 chance to morph a Wyrae, but only a 1/63 chance of morphing a Cetari or Feiron); and any color Wyrae is worth roughty 150m.
3) As the prices of the eggs right now are somewhere around 20-30m (give or take), that's roughly 1/4th the price of a CS egg; this would stand to reason that a black Cetari/Feiron could be priced around 37.5m-50m and albinos could be priced anywhere from 250m-500m (but as I stated earlier, since they could be morphed, the prices might be a bit lower, like 30-45m for a black and 200-400m for an albino). (And I do concede that Cetari/Feiron eggs are easier to obtain than CS eggs, the method is very tedious and can be time consuming, which in my opinion, should raise the price of the egg above 15m).
4) Although the prices of blessings were 3-5m before the Cetari/Feiron eggs came out, does that mean the price of the egg should deflate to meet the overall total of 3 blessings (9-15m per egg) or should the price of blessings inflate to meet the price of the Cetari/Feiron egg (6.7-10m). (This is a legit question and I want to know everyone's thoughts!)
Although I disagree with your pricing, Ota, I think making a forum to debate it was a good idea! I hope others incorporate their own ideas (regardless of whether they agree or disagree) and hopefully we can come to some sort of ballpark area and figure out how to price these Cetari/Feiron eggs and creatu! <3
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6:49pm Aug 2 2020
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Otachie, i agree fully with Katie, the prices are great for buyers but kinda make the sellers lose their time & resources. I think it is awesome however that you are trying help us out! thanks for that!! |
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8:06pm Aug 2 2020 (last edited on 8:07pm Aug 2 2020)
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In some way, Katie's though is right. Maybe the eggs really may be like 15mil like 3 blessings. Maybe a charge of 5mil for the effort of doing them is okay? Like 20mil for an egg. But definetly the low colours must be less than the egg. That's with every other pet except for the CS pets. I mean even the uldavian eggs are 300-400mil a piece and hatching a sepia or cream it's not that much.
Also for the part with the Wyrae. <3
I think that the Wyrae is that much tu for itself ONLY because it could be obtained by morphing. I'm not sure if we were able to get the RMPs by other way before than buying from the CS shop, but now like we all know, we can also get the by the daily rewards, which is awesome.
Feiron/Cetari eggs are easy to be obtained from the shrine, not actually paying money for them like for CP. You can hatch them, not like Wyrae. Wyrae could be beaned, but the new pets could also be beaned with calico jelly bean and also as said morphed, yeah, it takes time, resources and it need luck but many have been morphed already, so it's not that hard. Feiron and Cetari aren't that rare like CS pets in my opinion. If I have enough time I can bless pets all the time and get eggs. Also they cannot fail, you will never lose the effort you have given in the shrine. Ooof, that was long, but I hope it helps ❤️❤️❤️ I just want the eggs to be easier for obtaining for new players also. Or just buying the low colours of the creatu.
I will say it again by judging seasonals. 1 eggs is rough 3-4mil. The maximum tu you can get from the low colours are: Sepia - 1,000,000 tu Cream - 1,000,000 tu Black - 2,000,000 tu Ginger - 7,000,000 tu Silver - 12,000,000 tu
With this I want to say that if you get Feiron/Cetari egg, if you hatch ginger or better you will be at plus, same is with Ivik and Galta I will assume. That means the Feiron and Cetari colours that are Sepia, cream and black should be worth less than 20mil tu.
I forgot to add that I would definetly want to stick to the old prices of the blessings even if they raise up to 5mil per blessing. ❤️
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8:24pm Aug 2 2020 (last edited on 8:26pm Aug 2 2020)
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Ota:
1) Agree that sepia and cream should be less than the price of the egg.
2) I believe the only way to get Wyrae is/was by RMP.
3) Although you're not paying money to get the Cetari/Feiron egg directly, you are paying TU for the items/pets/eggs that are given to the shrine; so indirectly, yes you are paying for the eggs (but you'll probably pay less if you buy from NPC shops).
4) Although Cetari/Feiron can be beaned with the calico jelly bean, those beans cost about 150m a piece (give or take). This means that the fact that they can be beaned by Calico Jelly Bean should not dictate any other color prices.
5) Your odds of getting a Wyrae from an RMP are better than your odds of getting a Cetari/Feiron.
6) You said if you have enough time, which is one of the main issues when dedicating yourself to the shrine for 3 blessings per egg. People aren't only paying for the egg; they're paying for the egg as well as the time and the resources to get those eggs.
7) You can't exactly put a maximum price for seasonal creatu because I know for a fact that some people have bought colored seasonals (especially sepias) for more than what you had priced above.
8) Ivik/Galta eggs cost between 300-350m each, where as black Ivik/Galta cost around 400-500m each; So yes, sepia and cream should be priced less than the egg, but black? No.
Nice discussion! <3
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8:41pm Aug 2 2020 (last edited on 8:42pm Aug 2 2020)
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You are right as you know better than me, especially for the uldavian egg. So the black should be priced somewhere around the price of the egg and from the we should take and see the prices of the other colours ^^
And yes, for me, I'm buying the items/food from the NPC shops and it is cheap but we also need time to do it, to buy food and then throw it in the shrines. I'm also for that to charge for the work of 3 blessing to get an egg, that's like bulk blessing lot.
And yes, the calico beans should change the price of the others colours or calico itself, since the eggs are easier to obtain, not like the uldavian eggs.
P. S. I took the prices of the seasonal pets from Kina's rough pricing guide that I use for pricing pets, I believe that she priced them really well and I love using it ❤️
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9:07pm Aug 2 2020
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1)"And yes, for me, I'm buying the items/food from the NPC shops and it is cheap but we also need time to do it, to buy food and then throw it in the shrines. I'm also for that to charge for the work of 3 blessing to get an egg, that's like bulk blessing lot." Idk if this ^ was supposed to back up your point, but I think it backs up my point better? :o You need (1) time, (2) TU, and (3) it's a lot of work? This would mean the eggs should be priced higher.
2) I don't understand how the Calico Jelly Bean dictates the prices of the other colors that you can't obtain through the use of the jelly bean? Obviously it changes the price of the calico, but not any of the other colors.
3) The pricing guide is Kina's (well educated) opinion on what the prices of the creatu should be; just because she created it for us to use doesn't mean everyone goes by it; if it works well for you, that's great! But it doesn't work for everyone nor does everyone follow it.
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9:31pm Aug 2 2020
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I know, but her guide is pretty good. And yes, I'm also totally good with your opinion. Like the eggs are needing time to get, resources too. But not like really overpricing them. I appreciate the work people are doing to get them, also as mine that I stay are just throw items at Adagu, Otroe and Loyna these days xD
I have only hatched or traded the eggs so far, I have never sold them actually,maybe that's because I have done them by myself and I had the time. Maybe that's why I thought they should be priced lower, but if I am the seller maybe I would like to get some tu for my work.
I will be noting all of those thing at the end when we think of the best for everyone.
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9:44pm Aug 2 2020
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This was such a good discussion! It feels good to have a friendly debate with someone, thanks for talking with me, Ota! <3
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1:17am Aug 3 2020
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Good discussion guys.. I do think that the lower colors are still priced low. But I also feel that seasonal pets have gotten too low lately. I am looking at the fact if we keep going so low are res economy will end up being worthless. The fact that you are trying to help us still rocks! Even if we don't agree it made us think of our value with time and resources.. Thanks again |
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1:19am Aug 3 2020
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I just think the low colours must be lower of the value of the egg like all other eggs except the CS eggs and mythical eggs.
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