A use for natties


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Clouding

8:27pm Sep 15 2011

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5000 points? O-o
Your saying that overall, you'd have already handed in 5000 natties?
A little extreme no?
I support, but yes; there should be prizes.
But, they wouldn't be of that much value, like books, food and other stuff.
Maybe for every 100-150 points, you'd get 1 egg of something.
Keep in mind, it's 1, not 3.
This would make people work for something to collect.
Keep in mind that your handing in a 100 pets here, and that's alot!
Wouldn't it get agonizing to hand in a pet, go to search pets, buy a pet, and start all over again.
Gave me a headache just typing that.
I support the idea all the way.





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Jenny

8:34pm Sep 15 2011

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If that natural dye kit idea becomes active if this Natural quest ever becomes implemented.. I think naturals might have a slight increase in value. Especially because people are going to buy the cheapest Natural pets everywhere, leaving only some of the expensive ones. I think I'm being stupid here. xD

Also, I think there's should be a limit for a day, for how many tiers you can climb.



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7650

9:16pm Sep 15 2011

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Well, I'm saying there should be like small prizes but then a big on. Like a mini kir prize shop. Like 10 points gets you book 20 gets you a rare food 50 gets you a rare toy and so on and so forth. But then there should be a sort of big price that jumps from 100 points to 1000 or 100 the ultimate goal. It wouldn't be as big as a Ivik egg but it would be something that everyone would want like a Ivik egg. Because frankly, if there wasn't a good prize in it for me I probably wouldn't do it. Just saying.



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Zuzu

10:42pm Sep 15 2011 (last edited on 10:46pm Sep 15 2011)

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100 pets is a lot to hand into Kir, but not Hobokir, considering the surplus of naturals that are currently in the game. So what if you have to go to the pet search a heap of times, at least you don't have to work hard for weeks to get enough money to be able to afford the pets, you just have to do some clicking.

Someone has already got 1,000 points on Kir, which is heaps harder than this would be, and I am sure they and the other users with a high amount of Kir points (like myself) might enjoy the challenge of getting 5,000 Hobokir points. Like Kir's quest, the more expensive prizes could be a long term goal.

Just like no one makes you do Kir's quest, no one makes you do Hobokir's quest. You can go for the lesser prizes if you like, you don't have to go for the most expensive and challenging prize just because it is there. Whether you want to hand in 20, 100 or 1000 naturals, there would be a reward for you. Or, you can wait for other people to finish the quest and sell their prizes.

If we want this to be like Kir, with a pet as the hardest prize, the pet, like the ivik, wouldn't be something people collect. It would be something that you finally get one (or three) of and go "Holy crap holy crap I got one I got one!"

Now that I think about it, if there was a pet as a prize for a large amount of points, the prices of naturals would skyrocket. o.o Every sucessful natural hatch would be precious. People would say "Omg I hatched a natural! *runs off to hobokir*". It would be awesome.


So I would say I am still open to the possibility for a pet prize, but
I would still want it to be a lot of points, at least 1,000, a couple of hundred would
be too easy.

I like Jenny's idea of a daily limit of how many you can hand in. Obviously Hobokir can only take care of a certain amount of naturals at a time in the 'portal'. It would also stop all the people who get to see the update first and have fast internet from buying up all the naturals in shops to hand in and leaving none for anyone else... unless they want to upgrade their showrooms heaps and store them in there...



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Dissector

11:20pm Sep 15 2011

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This idea is... amazing. Especially with the idea of limits and the port and such. The idea of Hobokir (love that name) is great, especially for the people who have become very stuck on Kirs quest. However, I think that seasonals should be included. They're still natural and it would bring at least some challenge when people hit the occasional speedbump. While the prices of seasonals aren't horrid, I could easily buy some of them if I simply played my games for one day.



7650

11:32pm Sep 15 2011

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That's what I'm saying! But I don't really think there should be a number of pets you can turn in a day. It's kind of like a mini game if you do that. If you have a bunch of people buying up the naturals then they will be like super rare! Isn't that what we want?



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Yaizhbeen

12:03am Sep 16 2011

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Clouding: 100 naturals is not a lot at all. Most people would give Hobokir that many, and they Showroom would still be full. I don't think this would be interesting if you could complete it in a day 0_o.

About everyone buying up the "cheap natties", that won't work. As Hobokir won't say "Give me a nattie". He says "Give me a nattie Tesuri". So no point in hoarding only natural Aheas because they are the cheapest.

And still, nattie prices won't extremely sky-rocket. Because everyone who has a brain would not spend 100k on a nattie Tesuri. You just go Tesuri hunt for 15 minutes, and hatch your own the next day. This would just keep natties at reasonable price, like 5-10k, not ridiculously high (I think). Of course there would be an initial craze, but that would die down soon.

On the other hand, I do not think including natural seasonals is a good idea. With the current hatch failing the hatched seasonals number will drop (not to mention the special pets like Narwi, that need other seasonal eggs to get.) If we started to give the nattie seasonals to Hobokir, we could run out of them very soon :/. Not to mention it would result in the devaluation of sepia/cream etc. seasonals. I think nattie seasonlas should be kept just as they are, a beaning base for Kir Quest.



7650

12:17am Sep 16 2011

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Yaiz, well yeah I was thinking that from the first lace. He's not just gonna say fetch me any nattie! BUt people will buy up all the natties and the price will go up on them. And then when one speacie of nattie is bought up then people will be forced to buy them for 100k. I have increased the price of Tesuri eggs from 26k to 200k before. It will happen quickly.



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Zuzu

12:38am Sep 16 2011

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I am going to address a few problems that I forgot to before.

There shouldn't be a problem with people bringing more naturals into the game rather than setting them free because they will go out of the game quickly anyway. The 1000 tu reward for releasing your hatch wont go to waste either, since people might use it when they don't want their low colored hatches, like sepia and cream.

Atqueen forest will not loose use. After all, there is usually no pets in there anyway. And it will still be a place that people can dump the colored pets that they don't want.

Now to address the newer issues.

I would say no to including natural seasonal as well, they don't need a price boost. A definite no to egg trade seasonals, since getting those natties for Kir is already hard enough. I was stuck on a natural narwi for ages, and had to fork out quite a bit for one. No, the value problem is with common naturals, not seasonal.

Even with the specificity of species, people may still buy up a lot of different kinds of naturals to use in the future to try and resell when the prices go up, but there isn't much we can do about that. 

A daily limit it would stop the userbase using up all the naturals in a day. But this is just an idea, it doesn't have to be part of it.



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Zuzu

1:50am Sep 16 2011 (last edited on 2:03am Sep 16 2011)

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Lir's Quest





Hello, my name is Lir.

You have probably heard about my brother by now, Kir, who has been working on this planet for the past year. Your probably even doing his pet quest, giving him your prized pets in return for a measly amount of tu and some pitiful prizes. Isn't he demanding, asking for the rarest of your pets and giving you basically nothing in return? And then he takes them back to Uldavi and sells them for hugely inflated prices, so that only the well off of our population can afford them, while us lower class citizens don't even get the chance. He's a con man, stealing things right from under you and you don't even notice!

Why don't you come and work for me instead? I don't have the same high expectations as him, I just want the most common of your pets, the natural colored ones. I want to take them back to Uldavi and give them to the less fortunate of us who can't afford Kir's high prices. I know that most of the people here just throw away these valueless pets, but if you give them to me and help the cause I will reward you. I can't afford much, since I am not as well off as my brother, but my prizes are much easier to get and more useful.

Once I ask you for a natural Creatu on my list, you will have to turn it in before I will assign you another. I will give you 1,000 TU and 1 point for every natural Creatu you give me. You will need to collect a certain number of points before you can purchase something from me. Will you help the less fortunate Uldavian people learn the joy of living with so many wonderful Creatu?


Here is your assignment. I have an order for one of these Creatu: natural Veram



I will give you 1,000 tu for your efforts!

You have not found the correct pet yet!

The citizens of Rescreatu have currently found me 0 pets. You currently have 0 Pet Quest Points.




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Jenny

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^ Love it. xD



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Yaizhbeen

6:29am Sep 16 2011

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"And then when one speacie of nattie is bought up then people will be forced to buy them for 100k."

Noone will be "forced" to buy a nattie for 100k. Everyone can just call it a day, and hatch 3 eggs of said species the next day and have very very good chance to get a nattie. Or even two. And they can put the second one in their ranch for 50k, and Mr. Hoarder will be "forced" to buy it for 50k, because it ruins their business^^.

Zul: Love the pic of Lir^^



Juke

8:31am Sep 16 2011

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"However... I just had an idea... iviks are genetically engineered, and they probabaly wouldn't have got it right the first time... maybe there was a rejected species that didn't work out... ugly genetic mutants taken in by Hobokir.... nah... that could never work..."

404, Lagmonster, etc? XD I know Subeta's got a 404 pet, but still. It's a cute idea.



Detneth106

2:09pm Sep 16 2011

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I think the artists are working on new pets left and right, so another might be a big stretch, but at the same time it could just be the 'cheap' version of the ivik. It's a snazzy idea and makes it worth the 10.000 natties you just gave Lir/Hobokir.

And definitely put a cap. There are thousands (?) of naturals out there, I'm guessing, but with all the Res users potentially jumping to do this quest...oh my. XD We'd have a national Res shortage of naturals. 

But how high would the cap be? 100 seems a bit small considering the prices, maybe five hundred or seven hundred? -tosses ideas-




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Yaizhbeen

8:46pm Sep 16 2011

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Yeah, maybe 5000 is bit too many. 500 shouldn't really be a problem though. One can hatch that much on their own within a year. However I do not think this game should give out an egg o_0. Give out anything sellable/tradeable and the initial craze will be extreme. And there are way too many species in this game already.



GreenKat

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Eiji

2:37am Sep 18 2011 (last edited on 2:38am Sep 18 2011)

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I was just talking about how natties are next to useless now, and I got a lot of people who said they buy them and dye them and whatnot. xDD It kind of confused me. So it's good to see I'm not the only one who thinks they have very little value.

From what I've read so far, I can say that I really love this idea! ♥





Zuzu

11:15pm Sep 18 2011 (last edited on 11:16pm Sep 18 2011)

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This is just a random idea that came to me and it probably wouldn't happen but it's funny. :P So you can ignore it if you like.

Hobokir/Lir can't afford ivik eggs but he can afford...

... spoiled ivik eggs.

xD

For quite a lot of points you can buy a spoiled ivik egg. It has a 5% chance of hatching, as stated in the hatchery, and a 70% chance that if it hatches sucessfully it will hatch as a...

... mutant ivik.

*genius*

And Lir's creatu companion is a mutant ivik.

However I am not saying that normal ivik eggs should be made to be able
to rot, no, the only way you could get a spoiled one is through Lir.


/end crazy idea



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Juke

9:11am Sep 19 2011

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Haha, I love that idea thar. -pokes Zul's post-

Make it friggin ugly, just for kicks and giggles.



7650

6:13pm Sep 19 2011

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THAT'S A GREAT IDEA! 



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