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Riyo

10:49am Aug 6 2013

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Wolf: Yea Murgy.. A lot of the time ideas drop off halfway and we have to revive them now and then x.x 
Wolf: Alright Snow c: 
Danger: I totally called it, for the CP clothing pack
AngelDelight: they are meant to rp but some just die suddenly
kibo: did my sr add even post -.-" *kicks internet connection*
Wolf: It's an annoying glitch :I
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Murgy: We don't get to know about the ideas that drop off, though. As far as we know, they don't even exist in the first place.
Salt: fyi; Offering pure for Albino Retired [LINK] < :3
Murgy: So what I'm understanding is that the developers just don't finish what they start, and it's become a habit.
Murgy: Literally do not finish what they start. The reduction shop is going on its 9th day open, and I swear it was only supposed to be open for 7.
Salt: Might be more of the ideas don't get enough enthusiam from the rest maybe.
Wolf: Hm I haven't been on the staff boards for very long so I haven't seen any of the ideas that were created during my time drop off
lolpandaftw: it says on the calendar that the shop was meant to shut yesterday
Wolf: But i've seen dead threads with pretty good ideas being revived all of a sudden while being Support
Hummingbird: Murgy, there was the problem of not being able to pick them up
Hummingbird: which may explain it?
Murgy: True, Salt, but you'd think at least even a single idea would have been implemented by now.
Hummingbird: but i think you're right in general
Murgy: And I don't mean more clothing packs.
Riyo: i love when murgy and russ talk
Salt: The undead was one.
Riyo: ^ sincere sentiment i love you two
Murgy: Russ/ Then I'm not seeing a public explanation for it. If you can point me to an update or something saying that there was a bug and that's why it's open, but I don't see any.
Avedori: We should rename the shoutbox to the angrybox >.>
RP45: all my hatches failed LOL
Murgy: Lol Riy I could not tell if that was sarcasm or not at first. <3
Hummingbird: there was a thread i believe, i'll try to find it
Hummingbird: yeah i couldn't either yori :U but thanks <3
RP45: anyone wanna buy some ageless extracts?
Murgy: Salt/ I wasn't around for that period of time, so I could be wrong. o3o But still, I think pet effects are similar to clothing items.
snowehuskeh: thanks alot^^ it's frosted and it also have a good name^^ good for my Zaph collection
Murgy: Just...you know, for your pets. o3o
Wolf: You're welcome Snow c:
Riyo: free: 3 hatches to the first person who says Coconut Bra
RP45: cocnut bra
Murgy: Coconut Bra
lolpandaftw: coconut bra!
RP45: so close
GaltaGirl: me riyo
RP45: xD
Murgy: I don't want the hatches I just wanted to say it o3o
Riyo: all yours murgz
GaltaGirl: coNevermind -_-
Riyo: oh you punk
Murgy: sorry Riy I'm a butt I know
snowehuskeh: Coconut Bra
Riyo: lolpandaftw gets them then
GaltaGirl: I just woke up and im slow.....
snowehuskeh: lol
RP45: lol
GaltaGirl: reading....
Hummingbird: [url=http://www.rescreatu.com/forum/cat/feedback/bugs/berries-glitch/~page/2/
Hummingbird: damn
Salt: To be honest they are, but plot wise, it was a miracle we got some development.
Hummingbird: [LINK]
Riyo: send 3 eggs lolpanda
lolpandaftw: thanks :3 I have two eggs, give the other one to RP :3
Hummingbird: someone horribly stretched the page
Salt: Otherwise it's be repeating what we had the previous years.... again.. .. ..
Murgy: Salt/ Miracle is the key word. :x And from what I heard [again, wasn't around for this, i could be wrong] there was very little "plot" to it.
Hummingbird: VIckyM did
Aquari: Practice Art Adoptable's Tell me what U think [LINK]
RP45: thanks maybe this one WONT fail xD
Murgy: Jeez I hate when people stretch the page ;n;
Wolf: There are quite a few ideas that have gone through- Frost light, Calico, Achro, Undead and many more, but one of the problems is that the ratio of ideas that drop off outweigh the number of successful ones, sadly
Murgy: And they're all for pets.
Riyo: i think the bigger problem is that the things that are being added to the game don't offer players anything to actually /do/
Hummingbird: My Botany Quest creatu idea was given support by staff months ago.
Salt: Yea it ended quite badly. :c
Murgy: I'd be more stoked about that if your pets did more than sit on your profile like a trophy.
Riyo: ^^^
Riyo: what murgy said
Murgy: Same, Riy, exactly ;n;
Hummingbird: ^^^ also what murgy said
Danger: ugh yes Murgy
Danger: can anyone say battling?
Salt: yes
Wolf: Battling is in *censored* now :)
Danger: Hasn't battling been in *censored* for like, the past 3 years.
Murgy: Idunno. I'm not trying to hound you about it, Wolf, or anything, I know you're not responsible for the lack of updates, but every time someone tries to -c-
Danger: :T it's like parties man.
Wolf: No it's been in coding for like 3 years xD
Salt: No it's been in *censored* for 3 months at most
Hummingbird: ^^^^^
Riyo: Natural female sirleon, natural female chimby, and a fail
lolpandaftw: Pat has been working on it for a while, he wants to get it perfect and he works 80 hours a week at his job
Wolf: Actual *censored* started recently
Murgy: -c- say something either someone shuts them down or they're just overlooked
Requiem: See, why don't they tell us stuff like that though? e_E
lolpandaftw: so he doesn't have much time for other things
Requiem: * e_e
Salt: It's been lol what is battl- OH NO COMPETITION SITES BETTE RGET CODING
RP45: i got a fail again haha
Riyo: lmao salt
Requiem: And give us like screen shots and like "WE ARE *censored*~" 
Dust: I sent in a CP transfer yesterday why did it not go through?
lolpandaftw: riyo- release thanks :3
Murgy: Panda, that doesn't excuse the fact that he runs the site. If he can't handle it on the hours he's working, fine, hire other people to do it.
Wolf: Yea, that's why i'm pushing for more staff openness xD
Murgy: ^ What Salt said a thousand times over omg
Hummingbird: i know that we're going to get shepherded over to the feedback thread
Hummingbird: [s]that no one listens to[/s
Avedori: Murgy, sent my rmail a bit ago...did you get it?
Hummingbird: dammit my sarcastic mutter text failed
Riyo: russ marry me, please
Murgy: Ave/ I'm checking now o3o the lag sucks
Dust: Wolf?
Avedori: Yes! lag is kinda bad right now
Hummingbird: okay riyo why not
Hummingbird: i'm lagging too
Wolf: Yea, I think as long as this doesn't break out into something unhandle-able it should be fine, it's nice when people get together and give feedback
RP45: tion
Salt: I'm actually not lagging :D
lolpandaftw: I have the mother of all Keloids on my helix D=
Murgy: Ever since last night ;n; like the last 12 hours have been really bad onsite
Wolf: Dust: Frank handles the CP transfers and he's been a little busy i'm afraid, i'd do it but I don't have access to a lot of tools
Hummingbird: off topic, i still think that it's hilarious about the storm of adoptables in the past week
Murgy: I just would feel better if someone at least acknowledged what people are saying on the feedback thread.
Hummingbird: ^
kitten5862: Free hatches to CS/Seasonal eggs c: Doing name searches, and buying a silver unnamed female zenirix, can provide potion
Wolf: Yeah I think that too Russ xD
Murgy: I know Crow said something along the lines of "I don't have time to type out responses to all of these but keep them coming"
Hummingbird: there hasn't been any though
Murgy: so numbers and numbers of people telling you the same things over and over again are the only way we can get anything changed around here? That's what I'm understanding from that.
Riyo: the feedback thread is where site improvement suggestions go to die ;')
Murgy: And correct me if I'm wrong, but I haven't seen staff reply to a single individual post on that thread.
Hummingbird: ^^^^^
Murgy: Amen, it's like a suggestions graveyard
Salt: Crow's the only one meant to reply i think.
Danger: What's really sad is that Res has to go through this huge crapstorm of hate and anger to actually get off it's butt and do something
Riyo: hahaa
Riyo: suggestions graveyard
Hummingbird: agreed danchan
Murgy: Yeah, exactly, Danger.
Salt: Ikr dan but sigh at the end of the day year we might get somewhere.
Murgy: Salt/ That would clear things up a bit. But she doesn't seem to have acknowledged any specific ideas
Danger: Seriously though.
Danger: The Make Your Voice heard thread has been around for a while
Danger: And only now has it had a recent surge of people finally speaking out
Murgy: Can we please just sit back and realize for a second that if the tumblr didn't exist and if FR didn't come about, the entire site would be blindly carrying on like it has for at least the past year
Wolf: Quite frankly I don't check the feedback thread -cough-, i've been on hiatus for quite a while now and i'm only filling in for a week or so
Salt: She's not 'at home' or something about travelling recently I'm not sure on the details :c
Hummingbird: because we have an "official" outlet
Pegasus: That's not true, some of the suggestions in the suggestions forum HAVE been implemented
Wolf: i'll make it a point to post whatever's been posted onto the staff boards for you guys though, so it at least gets more noticed
Riyo: i seriously love when murgy and russ talk omg you guys, marry me
Danger: thank u murgy
Danger: thank u
Hummingbird: we're not talking about pet suggestions etc
Murgy: Haha well to be fair, Wolf, is that really in your department anyway?
Pegasus: Before all of this tumblr nonsense
Hummingbird: we're talking about site improvement
Hummingbird: ???????
Salt: We're talking about the make your voice heard thread, not suggestions lol.
Murgy: It's totally cool, we're not ganging up on you or anything, you just happen to be the staff that's present right now
Hummingbird: this has been happening long before the tumblr
Wolf: Murgy it's in the development department, haha. We all share the same board. :)
Hummingbird: and by this has been happening
Danger: Like honestly, if you check the twitter account for Res
Hummingbird: i mean nothing has been happening.
Riyo: RUSS
Riyo: i'm dying
Danger: 95% is either "Achros are here!!!!" or "New CP/CS items!"
Pegasus: I have a question though, most posts in that thread are rants. Can anyone come up with an actual solution?
Salt: riyo dont die you're too young to die
kitten5862: Black Male Sirleon hatched on 2013-08-06 09:42:38 You guys totes should have let me hatch your CS eggs xD
Murgy: Ah, fair enough, Wolf.
Hummingbird: and the other 5% is announcing events
Pegasus: That the staff can look at and say hey, that might be a good idea?
Murgy: I totally get that the site needs money to keep running, and the bills gotta get payed.
Riyo: pegasus just because a post has a ranting tone doesn't mean it's not productive
Salt: Pega you realise none of us are like staff with ability to force any actual weightage on the issue right.
Riyo: martin luther king probably sounded like he was ranting dont you think
Salt: ^
Hummingbird: ^^^
Danger: Martin Luther King pretty much was ranting, if you think about it
Pegasus: I'm sure he spoke of HOW to improve too
Hummingbird: oh snap
Murgy: However. The only features I've seen released for unpaying users are (a) slightly uglier versions of CS clothes or (b) emptly plots
Salt: He just sounded so nice.
Danger: a wonderfully passionate, radical rant
Danger: very verbose
Hummingbird: danchan hit it with a radical rant
Riyo: psure MLK just said "stop being racist asses and treat us like human beings"
Murgy: "martin luther king probably sounded like he was ranting dont you think" I love you
Pegasus: You can point out all the problems, fine, but what are the solutions to them? I haven't seen one yet.
Salt: Well pega would you like to help us out or fuss over our fussings.
Flammable: From what it looks like a better solution would be for there to be better leadership. Doesn't seem like anyone's really pushing to get things released.
Hummingbird: the problem tho
Riyo: and i'm psure most of the res people who are 'ranting' are just saying "stop being neglectful site owners and give us something to DO in return for all the money we give you"
Hummingbird: even if we had an MLK user
Avedori: After working for so many years, one of the best things I can say about all this is this: Don't goto your boss (or someone else in charge) With a problem...goto them with a solution :)
Hummingbird: they wouldn't get listened to
Danger: Salt is our MLK user
Pegasus: That's where the suggestions forum came in wasn't it
Hummingbird: salt and murgy
Murgy: Okay the solution is give us stuff to DO on this website
Murgy: that is literally the solution
Pegasus: My point Ave
Murgy: anything with SUBSTANCE, please.
Danger: Honestly, even if we give out suggestions and rant beautifully and have 243151 MLK users
Danger: If the staff don't listen
Danger: and the staff don't do anything
Salt: Nothing gets done.
Riyo: pmuch murg
Murgy: nothing changes. o3o
Danger: exactly salt
Pegasus: And the suggestions forum is full of threads where users request things to DO with our money.. and some has been implemented
Flammable: There are lots of ideas for things to do on the site but nothing's going to happen if no one codes anything
Hummingbird: People went to fr because there was STUFF TO DO.
Danger: I don't want things to do with my money
Pegasus: You want something to do, I get that. But what are you into? What do you want?
Danger: I could waste it all on RWNs
Riyo: haha they finally uncensored rescreatu huh
Danger: I want things to do with my time
Salt: Yea man, despite it being own 60% of the time.
Riyo: no
Riyo: just lowercase fr?
Hummingbird: jk riyo
Riyo: lmao.
Pegasus: Because honestly when we get new things to do everyone complains about it
Salt: Pega if you read the threads we pretty much suggested more games and battle and more games and battle.
Riyo: pegasus what new things have we been given to do?
Murgy: Pegasus, can you give us an example of that?
lolpandaftw: that what people want though :L
Danger: Because all of our new things are CP related or CP linked or just a giant tu sink
Murgy: That's not either an empty, plotless event or more clothes
Salt: We want games and battle I think it's pretty simple staples that we were meant to have ages ago.
Riyo: the last substantial thing we were given was Kir
Pegasus: We do get events which some users think are fun... I agree we don't get many year round things
Hummingbird: personally i've been wanting another comet festival for ages, or something new with plot
Salt: We get recycled plots.
Murgy: The events are all very empty, though.
Pegasus: And yes I agree that we should get battle after what? I've been here 3 years and they've been talking about it
Wolf: Sorry if I seem a little unresponsive guys, i'm combining the feedback posts in the feedback thread into one post for the boards
Riyo: pegasus most of the site events seem to amount to 'refresh a bunch of times'?
Pegasus: It's high time we get battle
Hummingbird: riyo
Salt: Thank you draggy, your effort is appreciated. <3
Danger: There are 5 posts on the front page of the news. 2 of which are CP RELATED. 1 is Achro, and the rest are "woo raffle winners!!!"
Murgy: There's not much of a plot. "There's a comet. Go find stardust. Decorate your pets!!!1! kawaiiii!!"
Hummingbird: i never thought of that
Wolf: Also another comet festival will be coming up soon Russ :)
Salt: Kawaii sugoii
Hummingbird: ...ahh yes
Wolf: And by soon I mean in about a month's time
Danger: Sempai noticed me @u@
Ally: Draggie <3
Danger: //sparkles
RP45: comet festival?
Hummingbird: call me stupid but
Murgy: Riy has the most valid point in the world omg
Hummingbird: ahhh yes
Wolf: Hey Ally c:
Ally: Rp yeah its a new event for res
Danger: but seriously, can we have some serious plots with depth and exploration into our (p much worthless) NPCs?
Riyo: lmao
Murgy: RP, a comet flies by a planet and all the pets from that planet can get ***stardusted***
Hummingbird: ノ≝ ヮ ≝)ノ*:・゚✧ anyway back to being mad
Pegasus: Yeah Riyo, I have been talking about that.. maybe last year. But for exmaple, egg finding, how do we make it without refreshing? Maybe if we came up with a good idea and pushed it enough it will happen
Ally: Draggie how are you?
Riyo: nobody realized that site events are literally 'refresh a lot'
Murgy: Like I admit to having a stardusted pet. I admit to paying a buttload of TU to stardust said pet. But now what
RP45: cool
lolpandaftw: what planet are you guys hoping for?
Riyo: *?

  
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Wolf: Hey Ally c:
Ally: Rp yeah its a new event for res
Danger: but seriously, can we have some serious plots with depth and exploration into our (p much worthless) NPCs?
Riyo: lmao
Murgy: RP, a comet flies by a planet and all the pets from that planet can get ***stardusted***
Hummingbird: ノ≝ ヮ ≝)ノ*:・゚✧ anyway back to being mad
Pegasus: Yeah Riyo, I have been talking about that.. maybe last year. But for exmaple, egg finding, how do we make it without refreshing? Maybe if we came up with a good idea and pushed it enough it will happen
Ally: Draggie how are you?
Riyo: nobody realized that site events are literally 'refresh a lot'
Murgy: Like I admit to having a stardusted pet. I admit to paying a buttload of TU to stardust said pet. But now what
RP45: cool
lolpandaftw: what planet are you guys hoping for?
Riyo: *?
Pegasus: Riyo I did after my wrist started hurting so much lol
RP45: relcore
lolpandaftw: reiflem
Ally: Panda reiflem 
Aquari: Hay i think that omenas rainbow creatu she made should be paintable that would be great -RAINBOW CREATU-
Murgy: Riy it had occured to me but it didn't really register
Pegasus: And I have complained. But I can't think of a better solution.. Can you? If you can I will back it
Wolf: Am fine thanks Ally, just really tired, you?
Pegasus: Staff aren't idea generating robots.. it will help if we could have specific solutions too...
Murgy: Some people have given specific solutions, though, Pegasus.
Riyo: pegasus they have been given specific solutions idk what you're talking about
Pegasus: Ideas that appeal to the user base so that they will back us with it
Ally: I wanna see stardusted Iluvus <3
Murgy: In fact most of the suggestions forum is entirely specific
Pegasus: Can you show me? I haven't seen any
Hummingbird: once again
Hummingbird: we have
Ally: Draggie same I just came back from taking a test and getting registured for collage
Murgy: and a lot of those ideas have been supported and then dropped off the map
Salt: NOT REIFLEM gdi
FluzzMe: Selling three hatches 175k each.
Salt: please anything but reiflem
Mmamushi: selling 3 hatches 100k each
lolpandaftw: for veram, ardur and rodi :3
Salt: it's not possible.
Murgy: Right Salt it doesn't make sense for it to be reiflem
Pegasus: I suppose Murg, can you link me to one?
lolpandaftw: why not reiflem? D=
RP45: relcore!
Hummingbird: i want relcore yeah
Salt: thank u
Salt: relcore and atquati are cool
Salt: but not reiflem thank u
Ally: Lut I just want stardusted Iluvus TTuTT
Murgy: Pegasus you can literally look at the entire suggestions forum, but if you really want me to find an example for you I can
RP45: for zenirix jaaku and leverene
Wolf: Ah how was the test Ally? c:
Danger: If not for the inevitable crapstorm that would happen if I linked to my incredibly long and incredibly specific post on the tumblr about the difference between our events and other petsites, I would.
Salt: idk what kind of super comet this is but it makes no sense for it to fly across the combined gravitational pulls of 4 planets to reiflem.
Hummingbird: here i can give you some examples
Hummingbird: lemme grab some
Murgy: Stardusted halloween pets ;n; it hurts my heart to think about it
Ally: Daggie passed them <3 so I am in
Riyo: i want to see it danger
Wolf: Grats! <3
Hummingbird: [LINK]
RP45: jaaku would look great stardusted
Riyo: can you submit it to my tumblr? riyoyukai there
Pegasus: When I look in the suggestions forum all I see is new pets, new colours, things we alreday have but are just slightly tweaked and will fade out
Hummingbird: there's your examples
Ally: Lut but its one of the 4 planets it goes around?
Murgy: It's ok Salt, the event's gonna be super late coming out, so clearly by that time the comet should have made its way around to reiflem
Pegasus: I haven't looked recently but I used to follow it a lot and that's what i found
Pegasus: I will take a look Russ
Ally: Only reason i say refliem is because I want stardusted iluvus XD no other reason 
Fright: Anyone have Blue Water Flowers?
Hummingbird: Illnesses for pets sounds cool.
Riyo: i wish pat would stop spending money on site layout updates. i see another thread where he's asking for suggestions there blurg
Pegasus: Creatu.. creatu.. colours....
Pegasus: Still waiting.
Florence: Good morning everyone. <3
Danger: sent
Salt: hi flo
Murgy: Okay, fine. I'll link you to some specific solutions.
Murgy: [LINK]
ThornlessRose: There used to be illnesses for creatu<3
Murgy: [LINK]
Murgy: [LINK]
Florence: Salt bby, Magi, Murgy and Chez how are you guys? ;w;
Murgy: [LINK]
RP45: thorn is that why there re all these useless potions?
Avedori: Free hatches for CS pets :)
Requiem: Yeah there used to
Murgy: Good, Flor. c: We've been discussing the site development on the sb this morning.
Ally: Req <3
Murgy: Or rather, the lack of. But it's civil, I promise. o3o
Requiem: When I first joined I remembered they would get sick all the time and I'd go into frantic panic attacks xD
Hummingbird: I know there used to be illnesses.
Riyo: glad you did murg i was about to
Murgy: Anyhow, Pegasus, there are your specific solutions that you are so determined to believe don't exist
Hummingbird: I miss them.
Pegasus: Alright,I like Zen's idea for guardians. But prizes will have to be switched out often to make it useful in the long run
ThornlessRose: Salt, Murgy, who says that the comet is going to go to Reiflem? xD
Danger: there was a joke about the bushy eyebrows illness leading to the creation of Shade
Murgy: Thornless lol it's just a rumor going around.
Hummingbird: omg danchan memories
Murgy: Omg Danger
Murgy: I never heard that one
Danger: laughs 4 ever
Hummingbird: Wasn't it for like
Hummingbird: 267 days
Danger: Yeah that was an old rumor
Florence: Ahh, the comet festival, I'm guessing? c:
lolpandaftw: iluvu, ebbie, veram, ardur and rodi though :O
Danger: YES Hummus
Murgy: Pegasus/ You asked for specific solution examples and I gave you some.
Danger: A really long time
JaakuFan: Selling unnamed calico myotis.
Hummingbird: some people believed it
Danger: Oh man that was hilarious
ThornlessRose: I would LOVE to see stardusted Iluvu<333 Purr<3
Murgy: Flor/ And other things, but yes. o3o
Danger: Like so many people was like "it's been day 35. I still have not seen a change"
Pegasus: I'm not determined to believe they don't exist. I'm sick of reading the same thing over and over in blogs and no one actually DOING anything but ranting. So like, these should be posted elsewhere too I think so more players can see them
Riyo: lmao. i remember patrick's bushy eyebrow zenirix with the overlay
Murgy: Stardusted Iluvu would be fabulous don't get me wrong but it just wouldn't make any sense for the comet to hit Reiflem next
Danger: Can we hit Atquati next
Riyo: pegasus WHAT exactly do you expect users to do?
Murgy: Pegasus, these are not rants! They are legitimate suggestions!
Fright: Selling Iluvus and Ebilias. Check out Showroom Please! 
Avedori: Hey guys...Im going to distance myself from Res for a few days. I really can't stand all this conflict and yelling and whatnot. If you need to get ahold of me, my skype and aim info is on my profile.
Danger: Can we have a forsrs Atquati appreciation day
Pegasus: Murgy I said in the BLOGS.
Danger: Like Atquati gets no love
Hummingbird: remember relcore appreciation day
Pegasus: Everyone reads the blogs
Murgy: What else do you expect us to do, knock down Patrick's door and demand he implements any of them?
Hummingbird: um
Murgy: So? People read the forums too.
Hummingbird: i do not read the blogs
Murgy: Tons of people.
Pegasus: No, post them in more public areas of the sight
Danger: We can't even contact Pat reliably, lol
Hummingbird: unless someone makes a post here
Pegasus: site*
ThornlessRose: I love Atquati. ;D *lives on Atquati*<3
Salt: It doesn't help that you're 'ranting' about our 'ranting' ya know
Pegasus: And advertise them in the SB
Murgy: The suggestions forum was created for that specific reason
Riyo: pegasus the entire SITE is flooded with suggestions
Riyo: people talk about it in the shoutbox
Riyo: in the blogs
Riyo: in the forums
Riyo: in RMails
Hummingbird: blogs forums shoutbox
Murgy: And I don't know about everyone else, but I don't want the SB to be flooded with JUST advertisements
Riyo: we are being IGNORED.
ThornlessRose: Amen, Murgy<3
Hummingbird: I want a separate SB for ads.
Blackgothfox: Selling pets in ranch shop everything in item gallery and buying omni or kioka egg
RP45: PREACH
RP45: xD
Salt: no one would go there russ
Salt: literally no one omg.
Pegasus: I have not seen anything useful in a blog yet... the closest thing is I agree that we should have battle by now
Pegasus: In a BLOG
Riyo: pegasus
Murgy: Pegasus who cares if they're in blogs or forums
Hummingbird: But it would despam the SB here and that would make me happy.
Murgy: the fact is that they're there
Murgy: and we are being ignored
Hummingbird: //selfish
Riyo: i feel like you're just arguing for the sake of arguing here
solknots: oh got are we talking about THE blog
Hummingbird: no sol
Murgy: Nah, Sol.
Riyo: you're the only one saying that users aren't doing anything to get change in motion
Salt: riyo bless u
solknots: god*
ThornlessRose: Did you know that you aren't actually being ignored, and that sometimes staff DO impletment ideas that people from Res suggest? In example, check out the Already Suggested forum, where edits have been made whenever suggestions have been added.
Hummingbird: we're talking about being ignored
Pegasus: No don't even bring up THE blog
Salt: we aren't sol
Blackgothfox: Again?lol
solknots: oh, great
Salt: nice going lol u guys
Pegasus: That is what I am SAYING Thorn.
ThornlessRose: Another example, I was the one, long ago, who suggested a creatu log. And Pat implemented it the next week.
Murgy: Pegasus, no, you're arguing that nobody is offering productive solutions, that we are only offering problems.
Hummingbird: "long ago"
Murgy: I gave you proof of people suggestion solutions.
Pegasus: But they INSIST that EVERYTHING we post is being ignored
lolpandaftw: the last seen thing just put in by a suggestion as well
Hummingbird: those are the key words
Salt: ^
Murgy: You're straying from the topic at hand.
Requiem: I really hope the Planet Wars idea will some day come into effect ;u; Staff seemed really pumped and interested in that when I suggested it
Hummingbird: everyone talks about how res has changed
JaakuFan: I see Salt.
Riyo: pegasus now you're just taking hyperbole literally
Florence: Okay I honestly think that we aren't being ignored. Not all suggestions are going to be added.
Pegasus: What I mean about that Murgy.. is everyone is complaining about the hate blog right? Okay I get that. But we can't STOP users from being toxic to others can we?
Hummingbird: well obviously not
Salt: riyo bless u
Hummingbird: but the useful ones would generally be nice
Murgy: Pegasus this is not about the hate blog omg
Riyo: salt <3
Judge: Selling Discount Card, Achro Jaaku, Achro Gondra, Retired CS Eggs, and Lunar Clothing Pack
ThornlessRose: The problem, and why it probably seems that users are ignored, is that things on Res are planned very far in advance. It takes a while to get things done, and it will usually take a while for suggestions to show up in our plans.
Salt: may the reflective salars bless riyo and murgs and russ
Pegasus: So why does every post in Crow's thread refer to that?
Blackgothfox: I cann see im not gonna get anything done in the boxXD -Moving on-
lolpandaftw: planet wars would be good, but most people are on atquati because you get the fishing hole and there are no other advantages to the other places
Hummingbird: i don't see anything happening though
Florence: Thank you Chez.
Requiem: -climbs onto Fox's back-
Hummingbird: if it's been happening far in advance
Salt: Not every post refers to that.
Murgy: Pegasus, because it's recent, and believe it or not it's not a HATE blog, there are legitimate, real complaints on it.
Salt: Not every post refers to that.
Blackgothfox: Hi req:)
Hummingbird: the most i've seen is i'm guessing planning for cs clothing etc
Danger: ... Can I just take a moment and point out
Salt: [u]Not every post refers to that.[u]
Danger: That every single recent submission to that blog has not been hate
Danger: but actual complaints about the site
Salt: omg russ your code failure spread to me
Requiem: Danger is correct
Pegasus: The recent pposts then, gosh do I have to be 100% literal with you guys -_-
Riyo: yes you do
Riyo: because you're faulting us for not being literal
Riyo: kthx
Aquari: Ilol
Murgy: What Riyo said omg
Dust: Pegasus did you check your rancher? 
Murgy: she just beat me to it
Salt: Zuzu's post barely touches on it.
Hummingbird: riyo omg
Pegasus: I did Dust
Murgy: "You're complaining that EVERYTHING is getting ignored" "man do I have to be literal with you guys"
Ally: Panda not true, only Refliem doesn't have a benefit 
lolpandaftw: what do the other places have ally?
ThornlessRose: Murgy, play nice, please.
Florence: Okay fact at the matter is that wherever you go everyone's not going to be la-DI-da RAINBOWS, okay? ;A;
lolpandaftw: /is from reiflem ><
solknots: okay sooo, do i sell my drachid or buy the name "End" and have two achro drachids names "in" and "End" xD
Salt: Murgy is pointing out a fact man.
Pegasus: And what Murgy? You are complaining that everything is being ignored. But not EVERYTHING is
Riyo: murgy didn't do anything not nice, she just copy pasted what pegasus said
Salt: I think that's cool sol, names are hard to come by.
Hummingbird: list
Hummingbird: list one recent thing
Murgy: Pegasus, but you just got upset because we took you literally. And you did the same to us.
Ally: Reclore has finish, Scria has a shop. Aqt I don;t remember but it has something I think a shop or the Enchanted springs count as it
Hummingbird: that has been implemented through a suggestion
Murgy: I didn't copy paste, I paraphrased, to be fair.
Hummingbird: i'm not talking about the last seen kind of thing
Riyo: and Pegasus, you are complaining that EVERYTHIGNG in that blog is hate. But not EVERYTHING is.
Requiem: I would like to say something please! While I know that it takes a long time for this stuff to get done and is planned in advance, it would be nice to get updates on the subject to keep users knowing it's coming and they aren't being ignored.
Danger: Hummus, if you count more clothing, yeah
Requiem: u 3 u
Ally: Fish* Reclore is where you fish
Blackgothfox: Yep im gonna go over here>>
Judge: *sigh* can we just get back to enjoying the game.
Danger: But useful suggestions?
Danger: Nah
lolpandaftw: finish? and atquati has the finishing hole xD
Riyo: ^ What Req said
solknots: wow im really glad im not in this argument :DD
Hummingbird: let's just feed them more clothing lol
Riyo: Take FliRi and Ay-was for example
ThornlessRose: Lol, Relcore is the one with the fishing hole. xD
Riyo: There are near daily updates informing the users with what is going on
Judge: participate in the game or don't. It's an easy choice.
lolpandaftw: oh wait yeah :L
Riyo: WHat things are being worked on, etc
Hummingbird: they had stuff to do
Pegasus: Alright you guys. I said what I had to say. Sorry if I offended anyone. 
Danger: Honestly, what is there to enjoy and participate about in this game?
Murgy: This went from being a semi-productive discussion with Wolf to a heated argument
Danger: Besides endless refreshing
Dust: Riyo Aywas had 3 updated yesterday 
solknots: guysss Reiflem doesn't have cool stuff like yourrsss
Danger: And hoarding pixels
Dust: I love Aywas 
Aquari: i wish there were better wats to earn tu
Murgy: Amen Danger
Murgy: AMEN Aquari.
Ally: Sol but it has th grave yard 
Salt: No I don't want to do from semi productive discussion to heated arguemnt to aywas thank you very much I do not.
Florence: I don't see the point in arguing about pixels to be honest. 
solknots: what's the benefit of a graveyard?
Judge: I enjoy both Dangetr.
Danger: The only reason people stay on Res is for the SB
Judge: *Danger
Murgy: You can get maybe 100k a day from freebies if you're lucky. You can wait on stocks. And you can hope that your stuff sells.
Salt: I'd rather stay at heated argument.
ThornlessRose: There is a major revamp coming this the site that should make it much more enjoyable to the userbase.
Murgy: But that's pretty much it.
lolpandaftw: solk- renaming
Danger: That's honestly it
Riyo: We're just comparing more active sites
Hummingbird: how long is the eta?
Murgy: Right, Thornless, but everybody is tired of asking the question "when."
solknots: oooo *reiflempride*
Judge: The buying and selling is what I enjoy. For me the game is about commerce.
Murgy: I think we all realize that it takes a while to put a good idea into action.
Murgy: But it's been years.
Flammable: do we need another revamp?
Danger: And that's all very good Judge, and I respect you for that.
ThornlessRose: Murgy, don't you think I get tired of asking the same question as well? xD
Dust: They said that months ago Thorn :/
Riyo: we really don't need another revamp
Requiem: We need another revamp. 
Danger: But lots of people don't play petsites for commerce
Danger: They play for fun
Requiem: In some aspects
Salt: We need features.
Danger: and Res has literally zero fun except for the SB (sometimes)
Salt: We need those ancient features re-coded and re-released.
Riyo: the only revamp we need is a revamp of how admins interact with the userbase
Hummingbird: ^
ThornlessRose: Riyo, we do, with what changes are coming. It will make the site much more playable.
solknots: i feel like y'all should have picket signs and be marching somewhere
Hummingbird: chex
Hummingbird: can you give me an eta for the thing
ThornlessRose: Wassup, Russ?
Murgy: I think our point is that we, as non-staff, aren't seeing any progress from the outside.
Riyo: is anyone complaining that the site isn't playable, rose?
Murgy: That's why everyone is upset.
Florence: People are just impatient about the update, all we have to do is just wait. If it's coming, it shouldn't be long.
Requiem: Thorn <3 But why are you the one telling us and not others? Like the ones higher up and whatnot? ;;
Pegasus: I agree Riyo
Judge: I disagree though Danger. I enjoy playing Res every time I log on.
Salt: Res has a 7 year history man. :c
Riyo: that's not it, florence. people aren't "just" impatient about the update.
Murgy: Flor, it's just that we've been patient for so long.
ThornlessRose: I probably can't, Russ, because I'm a mod and I don't have staff board access. But I will answer the best that I can.
Riyo: that was what was being said before v2. It was being said before v3.
Salt: F R took 3 years of development and look at them.
solknots: guys, Res is cool, maybe when you're too rich it gets boring xD
Hummingbird: and now we're being accused of being impatient
Danger: Because Judge, like you said, you're playing for commerce.
Murgy: Holla holla, Salt.
ThornlessRose: Req, because the others aren't here right now, and I'm the only staff on the shoutbox.
solknots: F R looks ridiculous xD
Requiem: I don't think we're being accused of being impatient. 
Requiem: Ahh x3 
Riyo: with every revamp we've just gotten more glitches, removal of features, and aesthetic changes to the layout
Murgy: Sol, it's boring when you're poor, too, because there's no good way to earn tu.
Florence: I know, I'm getting impatient too but they wouldn't tell us if its going to take a couple years, would they?
Hummingbird: how does F R look ridiculous?
Hummingbird: o_o
Murgy: Flor, you'd think they would, actually.
Requiem: I wish Mods got staff board access, since they interact with users the most and could answer more questions.
lolpandaftw: F R is down all the time as well ><
Murgy: So we can get some time frame other than "soon" "soon" "soon"
Salt: Flo, that's what they did with parties unfortuantely.
Pegasus: Maybe we need more coders so things won't take forever
Aquari: i think it would be cool if some of the old rare stuff came back out like gondra morphing potions and the r-ray
Riyo: F R is a new site and they're ironing out exploits and glitches
ThornlessRose: Riyo, right. And that's what the revamp is going to change. The layout is going to stay the same. It's just a change of the features on Res.
Murgy: Same, Req, that could solve a couple of problems.
solknots: it looks like all those other pet site games, it has that same front page format - maybe the gameplay is different..
Danger: Can I just give out a comparison with what's happening on Res?
Salt: It's been two years since they said the parties would be back < :3
Danger: We're waiting in a ridiculously long line
Hummingbird: amen salt
Danger: to this supposedly AMAZING coaster
Danger: It's boring as HECK
Riyo: hahaha danger
Danger: nothing to do except maybe sweat and wait and talk to your neighbors
Hummingbird: but the coaster will be "worth the wait"
Florence: Well then I honestly think this site does have a problem then. ;o;
Murgy: Omg Danger
ThornlessRose: Req, we don't need staff forums. Our job is on the shoutbox, we don't NEED to know plot details, and other things that other staff need to see.
Danger: But the thing is, no one knows how long the line is
Danger: Or when it ends
Murgy: it's like the small world ride at disneyland
Danger: Everyone's just being told "wait"
Avedori: You can get out of line at any time *shrug*
Dust: *cleans ears* What did Flo say???
Danger: eventually, people are going to leave
Murgy: it's like when justin bieber arrived 2 hours late to his own concert
Danger: And spend their time on more fun attractions and rides
Riyo: there are no updates or glimpses or any evidence at all that anything is actually being done
Murgy: this website is justin bieber guys
Salt: and spat on his fans
Danger: and when people finally get to the coaster
Hummingbird: jesus christ murgy
Murgy: minus the singing and spitting on fans and stuff
Salt: oh god murgy you didnt just make that comparison im sad now.
Hummingbird: it breaks down, danchan
Riyo: hahahaha
Murgy: Ok let's not make this about JB i'm sorry i mentioned it
Danger: perf hummus
Florence: I mean, I love this site. I've been on here for almost SEVEN years. But honestly it's getting boring. I'm really only on to help people and chat.
Murgy: my point is that he was 2 hours late TO HIS OWN CONCERT
Danger: thank u for being in sync with my analogy
lolpandaftw: woah that's way too far, at least Res is a bit fun :L
Hummingbird: and you have to wait longer
RP45: i spelled my pets name wrong LOL
Riyo: yes flor
ThornlessRose: Florence, aim?<3
Danger: And then when you get to ride it
Hummingbird: but you don't know how long
Salt: Flo <3
RP45: i put Possesion
Danger: It's literally a minute long
Danger: And not worth the wait
RP45: its Posession
Hummingbird: it isn't as great as it's said, either
Danger: Because you spend so much time hyping it up
RP45: But Posession is taken
RP45: xD
solknots: k jokes just made a D F account and omg its exactly what i love xD 
Danger: It inevitably falls short of all expectations
Hummingbird: people think it's going to be super duper amazing
Hummingbird: because you meant so much time waiting
Murgy: I was gonna say, if the updates aren't as exciting as we're told they are, I'll be out of here before you can say "actually--"
RP45: just opened a trade ;D
RP45: actually
Florence: Just got on, Chez. ^^
Salt: It sounds like how people go to shops with long queues when buying food bc they assume queues = good food
RP45: murgy you still hur 
RP45: xD
Murgy: RP, you're missing the "if" part of that statement, dear
Danger: Salt you had to go with the food route ;c
Salt: but it's not good food, it's literally just slow service.
Riyo: i'm not the type to say or threaten that i'm going to quit the game, i think that's empty
RP45: mmm hmm PREACH~
Hummingbird: so basically McDonalds, Salt
Riyo: but i have done next to nothing on this site for the past two or three years, if not more
Aquari: the reason i like this site is because iit is simple unlike neopets
Salt: This is actually a really good comparison of my problems with buying lunch everyday O:
Avedori: No one is forcing anyone to stand in like or wait for anything. The option to leave is always there *shrug*
Danger: Exactly Ave
Hummingbird: at least neopets has things to do.
Requiem: ^^
Danger: But because of the hype going on
Danger: People want to wait
Hummingbird: ^^^^^
Murgy: Aquari, the thing is that it's so simple that there are no games, there is nothing to do with pets besides buy, sell, dye, buy, sell.
Danger: And once you've waited like 60 minutes for the freaking ride
Avedori: What hype? 
Danger: It's not worth it to leave anymore
Danger: because then it'd just be a waste of your time
Salt: We've been here forever maybe if we wait a bit more something will happen
Riyo: Avedori: if you run a site, and the options you give your users are "wait a lONG ASS TIME for something that might not even be that good" or "leave" then you have a crappy site
Shadly: Holy lord is dust fire here???
Danger: Ave did you not see Thornless going "there's a lot of super duper awesome features coming out!"
Murgy: Riy yes exactly thank you
Danger: that's the hype
Murgy: that's why I get so irritated when people are like "if you don't like it then leave nobody's making you stay"
Murgy: Hell no I have waited YEARS on this site for something cool to happen
Danger: I've wasted a good 5 years on this site
Salt: I need to bathe and do work why are you guys so great to watch ; A ;
Shadly: lol murgy <3
Murgy: and I am going to friggin be here when and if it finally does
Danger: I'm not leaving now
Hummingbird: because we're being baited 
Riyo: it's like being a theme park owner, to ride on danger's analogy, and you only have one ride, and it's always broken down and the line is 5 miles long
Danger: I've literally WAITED FOR FIVE YEARS FOR SOMETHING COOL
Salt: Ah 5 years for me as well.
Hummingbird: dude we got a sneak peek at a part of v3
solknots: wow guys...
Hummingbird: remember this
Shadly: 5 years too! ahaha.
Danger: So essentially Universal Studio's HP Hogwarts adventure ride thing
solknots: iver been here like, a month
Avedori: is this really how you expect change to happen, though? 
Salt: O:
Danger: Waited forever
Murgy: Wasn't that a century ago Russ
Danger: "technical difficulties"
Pegasus: That was once... we should be getting updates at LEAST bi weekly
Salt: sneak peak of v3 included draggable profile boxes that we didn't get. D: <
Danger: waited even more
Hummingbird: yep
Riyo: and then when people say "can you, like, put some videos of the ride or something while we wait"
Danger: "technical difficulties"
Hummingbird: times have changede
Riyo: you say "no. deal with it and wait or leave the park bye"
Requiem: LOL Danger. I skipped that whole line because someone who works there thought my brothers and I were cool |D
ThornlessRose: Riyo, I really don't think that anyone is saying that. :l
Danger: wow rood req
Danger: i waited for an hour and 25 minutes
Riyo: somebody JUST did rose
Hummingbird: everyone is
Riyo: avedori just said "if you don't like it then leave"
Pegasus: There should be some interesting weekly event. My interest lies every month when the new CS HA packs come out.. and sometimes they're disappointing. But that's ONE awesome thing per MONTH. should be more than that
Avedori: I did not :o
Danger: only to have it break down with the acromantulas in front of my face
Requiem: It's okay I had to take my stupid stepbrother on it and that time the ride was liek 2hrs
Avedori: I said "Theres always the option to NOT wait"
ThornlessRose: A staff member did? Or an admin?
Requiem: wait, not ride*
Hummingbird: there shouldn't have to be a weekly event
Hummingbird: that's too much work i'll give them that
Riyo: avedori did
Danger: at the rate our events are going
Riyo: i was explaining to avedori why that isn't a valid argument
ThornlessRose: It's not like you don't get any sneak peeks. You got a sneak peek at the Drachid, got hints and sneak peeks at the upcoming comet festival last year.
Danger: i'd bet that the potential weekly events would be more refreshing
Hummingbird: both those
Hummingbird: came out last year
Murgy: The drachid is just another CS pet though
Hummingbird: ^
Danger: and when we actually do something different (the scavenger hunt) everyone just complains
Hummingbird: also that
Shadly: Another CS pet... lol
Hummingbird: something we spend money on
Riyo: we had a scavenger hunt?
Pegasus: Nothing has happened since Christmas.. almost 6 months
Danger: Drachid was just a CS pet :T again, more money
Danger: yeah Riyo
Zennie459: Guy check first page of auction they are Awesome pets! Oh and Bid on this you know you want to! [LINK]
Danger: kinda
Hummingbird: yeah riyo
Danger: for bracelet charms
Hummingbird: you talked to NPC
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Salt: The easter hunt last year was insanely difficult though, you have to admit, impossible for non english speaking users.
Dust: The site is flushing down the drain IMO
Hummingbird: and refreshed for a few of them
Pegasus: What annoyed me last year is I didn't even get a trophy for find the feast :|
Danger: it was different though
Murgy: Yeah, I've been back for months and nothing has changed in the time that I've been active onsite
Aquari: may be not weekly eventss but what about monthly events besides acros
Requiem: we've had a couple scavenger hunts
Pegasus: All that work for nothing
Pegasus: bi weekly
Florence: I mean, I like it when the events come out because it motivates people to come on. ^^
Riyo: how did the scavenger hunt work
Murgy: The events are nice, sure.
Riyo: you just go talk to NPCs?
Salt: But it's a temp fix flo D:
Shadly: lol oh my gosh I just saw something kinda funny
Hummingbird: biweekly means twice a week
Murgy: But there's very little substance to them, I think.
Hummingbird: anyway
Danger: Take a hint, go to a NPC or a place, get the charm
Requiem: I liked the easter one because it was hard o:
ThornlessRose: Pegasus, we had an event for every holiday between here and Christmas
Danger: the easter one was fantastic
ThornlessRose: The easter event.
Graveyardfox: How about just something in the dang summer? I really expected another comet festival to take off the wait but nope.
Salt: We need something for everyday! Not just spend 48 hours during this two weeks clicking madly away. :c
Hummingbird: ^^^^^
Murgy: It's true; NCP needs something, you give them a ton of that thing, they give you a prize.
Hummingbird: the easter event was gr8
Danger: All our holiday activites are super boring
Riyo: Rose - again those events amount to nothing but refreshing the page a lot
Danger: Literally people come on to get eggs
Shadly: /lepoof
ThornlessRose: Riyo, it's still better than what we had in the past, is it not?
Riyo: Murgy - so basically quests with useless answers?
Avedori: This is really becoming a Mob mentality thing. Its kinda scary :(
Pegasus: I forget let me go look xD
Danger: What we had in the past was still refreshing
Murgy: It's a slight improvement, but that doesn't mean it's particularly "good"
Riyo: Rose - uh no it's exactly the same as what we've had in the past
Pegasus: Honestly I liked the halloween event last year
Murgy: Yes, Riy, yes.
Pegasus: It was fun
Hummingbird: it's not "becoming" a mob mebtality
Salt: There's going to be something like an atquati seasonal event during the summer in works
Danger: yes salt
Danger: plz
Hummingbird: it's not even mob mentality
ThornlessRose: It was different, there was reason to refreshing. Reason to go places, etc.
Hummingbird: it's people frustrated
Danger: it's not even a mob
Salt: I liked it until the end was just lol bye sis cya next year i'll rip ye throat out then.
Graveyardfox: I do believe the holidays are getting better. The ice caves and the plot of the Halloween event were cool.
Danger: that ending was super disappointing
Murgy: Whoop brb forgot to take my pill ;0;
Riyo: rose that doesn't change that participating in the event meant sitting here and pressing F5 a lot
Danger: all that build up for nothing
Requiem: NPC's should be more active characters, that would be fun c:
Hummingbird: the halloween plot was pretty cool to me ngl
Murgy: I'm surprised the F5 key on my old computer wasn't broken tbh
Riyo: haha
Hummingbird: the parts where xoria and xespa went on the sb
Shadly: I think it's only mob mentality when everyone becomes sheeple and starts following one ideal, however, theyre are people with different ideals and opinions, so it is not yet, mob mentality.
Pegasus: Xoria and Xespa were then they just kinda disappeared xD
Riyo: that was pretty fun but wasn't that like three years ago
ThornlessRose: I see that every positive thing I say is going to get shot down. :C You guys make it hard to see the good in a sight, whenever all you want to talk about is the bad.
Graveyardfox: Riyo: That was last year.
ThornlessRose: site* Sorry
Riyo: rose you're not really saying anything positive though
Murgy: Thornless, if we didn't see the good, we wouldn't still be here.
Hummingbird: we've been waiting for good
Hummingbird: for months
Shadly: Thorn, dont ya think the fact we've stuck around for this long is a good sign? C: I'm honestly not trying to be critical here, but that probably wasn't directed at me. XD <3
Danger: If we didn't see the good we wouldn't be actively giving suggestions
RP45: thorn should buy a shaefu egg and try to hatch black or just buy/trade for one
Avedori: Thats what I mean, Thornless. If you dont agree with what Murgy and Russ are saying, you are gonna hear about it
Murgy: There's a bit of good. The art is cool. The HA's and pets are customizable.
Riyo: and why should we acknowledge the tiny little positive things when there's just so much vast endless nothing in comparison
Murgy: But there's not much substance onsite.
Riyo: it's not even oases in a desert. it's like puddles in a desert.
Dust: This is why I'm migrating to other pets sites 
Florence: Guys I'm sure hearing that things are going to happen is better than being left hanging, no?
Hummingbird: sort of
Murgy: Can we just note also that there were more games in v1 than there are now
Aquari: Thorn i do like this site and there have been some pettey cool stuff on occasion but it is usually only during the holidays
Riyo: florence: yeah it's like reaching a puddle in a desert but the puddle is filled with bugs
Murgy: Flor, it kinda feels like we are left hanging after being told so long
Riyo: florence: but it's better than drowning i guess
Graveyardfox: Flor: Actually no. On another site I was on, we were teased with V2 for years then the owner shut the site down and ran off. 
Dragoon147: Guys, come check it out? Selling everythng I own. [LINK]
Graveyardfox: He told us V2 was coming just so we continued to support the site.
Murgy: Oh but wait, Riy, you're dehydrated. Dead.
Riyo: err
Riyo: not drowning, yeah
ThornlessRose: With how you guys are talking, I'm not really convinced why you are here? If you guys love this site, why are you dragging it down? I know you all are frustrated that there is a lack of things to do. And I can't tell you things that I know about 
Graveyardfox: There was no development but we kept giving him money.
Riyo: i'm tired and distracted
Pegasus: Can someone remind me of what we got for the easter event? I remember the little story but besides that
Murgy: Graveyard that happened with a site I was on
Dust: Like, I feel if the site was getting PO'd that F R was a major topic then try to out due the site! Not be a child and censor the word
Murgy: Zetapets or something
ThornlessRose: what will changed, due to it may or may not be leaking material, and I don't want to lose my job over that. I'm sorry. x.x"
Riyo: Rose weren't you JUST telling me that no staff were saying "if you don't like it then leave?"
Graveyardfox: Murgy: Nutrinopets?
Murgy: like 6 years ago
Riyo: How are WE dragging it down?
RabbitWings: Peg- wan't it the ageless extract
Riyo: We're trying to promote change to IMPROVE the site
Murgy: Ah no I didn't ever play nutrinopets
Pegasus: Oh yeah xD
Hummingbird: ^^^
Florence: I don't think Thorn meant it that way. ;A;
Hummingbird: that was aimed at riyo
Graveyardfox: Murgy: Jesus I can't believe it's happened TWICE. :/
Shadly: Holy blegh my eyes feel weird
RP45: selling 2 ageless extracts and some glowy thingys xD i heard they are retired but whatever
ThornlessRose: Riyo, Like Florence said, I didn't mean it like that.
Florence: I think she meant that all of us moping about lack of change is bringing the site down.
Riyo: If anyone is dragging the site down it's those who have the power to provide us with updates and features and fixes, and who are not doing so
Avedori: This is the wrong way to "promote change" Every time someone says anything slightly contradictory to what your views are, you bash them down. Even staff are feeling sad. 
Murgy: Right, Graveyard ;n; so dumb
Dust: If rescreatu is getting on Pat's nerves he should be like Well that can I do to make this site better then that one ! No just be like nana poo poo *censor*
Murgy: We're not bashing staff.
Murgy: That's a harsh word.
Dust: F R *
Murgy: We're just pointing out why we are as upset as we are.
Pegasus: I feel like.. everything that contradicts is a bad thing
Riyo: Avedori: then by that logic, bashing us for "asking for change the wrong way" is also the wrong way to fix things
TheSituation: Theres a difference between promoting change and ranting for no reason on the SB.
Graveyardfox: Murgy: It's what I feel is happening with Res, honestly. x_x I'm worried these things just AREN'T COMING. And I gave more money to Res than I did to NuP.
RP45: can we just change the subjects lets talk about kittens xD
Murgy: "for no reason"
Avedori: I didn't bash, I just suggested this was the wrong way to go about things.
Pegasus: Agree Sit
Murgy: We damn well have a reason.
ThornlessRose: Yes, like Avedori said. The best way to get your voice heard is to make forum about it on suggestions forum. Things will not change based on what is said on the shoutbox
RP45: lol
Riyo: Avedori: tell us, then, how should we try to fix the site?
TheSituation: What is it, Murgy?
Riyo: And now we're being told to stop talking about it in the shoutbox again
TheSituation: Cause im missing it
Riyo: SIGH
Danger: Changing the subject, again is not going to help us as a pet site work.
Murgy: Have you been here, have you seen this entire conversation?
solknots: can someone RM me what F R is?
ThornlessRose: I did NOT just tell you to take it off of the shoutbox, Riyo.
TheSituation: Yes
Murgy: The reason is because we're not seeing anything productive done for gameplay on this website
FairyTailpsycho: selling a hatch..100 k.
RP45: omg people take things the wrong way
Murgy: that is the reason
Salt: We can't fix this site because we're nobodies man.
Riyo: F R is f l ight r ising, a dragon pet site
Danger: Changing the subject again is not going to help anything
Florence: Guys, it's because the shoutbox is not an effective way to get a point across.
solknots: oh cool thanks
ThornlessRose: I said it was better in a forum. There is no where in that message where I said to take it off the shoutbox.
Florence: Not everyone has access to it. Forums are there forever, basically.
Murgy: Okay so the SB isn't as permanent as the forums.
Riyo: it was heavily implied
Salt: We were merely discussing the topic before this.
solknots: ooooo it looks cool
Murgy: We were, Salt, you're right.
Murgy: It's turned into a huge argument.
Graveyardfox: I think that if enough people are angry in the SB, things will be paid attention to. If people are rioting in a bathroom, it's still going to get attention.
Avedori: Unless Patrick himself is in a conversation in the shoutbox, what do you think all this ranting is going to help exactly?
Hummingbird: We don't get feedback when we go to crowflux's thread.
Riyo: and literally every time i've seen people talking about rescreatu issues, we're told to take it to the forums
Murgy: And nobody was ever "ranting." If we wanted to "rant" we would have taken it to a more permanent place, with longer than 3-line messages.

  
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ThornlessRose: All I see here is this huge argument about things that need to get done, and I can't even wrap my head around everything that you all want said.
Graveyardfox: Although of course it's what I've been expecting of Res for ages.
Shadly: I dont think they came in here expecting everything to change with what they say in here XD
Hummingbird: Arguing and discussing here
Florence: It's not like there's a coder here writing all the stuff down that we want.
Hummingbird: gives it more publicity than on forums.
Hummingbird: It SHOWS how unhappy we are.
Salt: There are more troublesome topics we could be going on about tbh.
Graveyardfox: Exactly what Russ is saying.
Hummingbird: In forums you can choose whether or not you want to.
Pegasus: How many coders does Res have?
Florence: But you can just as easily show how displeased you are in the forums.
Salt: there's patrick.
ThornlessRose: I have told them that the shoutbox is upset. But if you make a forum about what you want, lay out everything that is broken, laying out ways to fix it
Riyo: Is that something you can tell us, Rose?
Murgy: Let's just note that as Salt said earlier this didn't start as an argument.
Hummingbird: want to see how upset the users are*
ThornlessRose: Can't you see that that is much more helpful than this mess? x.x"
Murgy: We were discussing our opinions.
Graveyardfox: Flor: Yeah, where we can easily be ignored and contained to one thread where many people don't even look.
Pegasus: Thorn there are threads though..
ThornlessRose: Riyo, I wouldn't say things on here that I can't say.
RP45: o its frost light 
Murgy: Thornless, I've expressed my thoughts on the forums. That doesn't mean I want to stop talking about it there.
Avedori: How about, if a forum were made, discussing all this, and instead of yelling about it in the shoutbox, you post a link to the forum as much as you are allowed? People are bound to go read it, and be able to comprehend it, especially staff
Riyo: I'm experiencing lag
RP45: i just need a ginger narwi for kir
Florence: I'm sure people look at the forums. Why would they make it if nobody would listen?
Riyo: *Can you tell us how many coders Res has?
Pegasus: There's Patrick.. but why haven't more coders been hired as yet
Graveyardfox: Flor: To make us think we matter and that they're listening?
Danger: Because it's honestly not advertised enough.
Hummingbird: Because of the drama with Shea
ThornlessRose: Oh my God, my parents are being *censored*s. I'll be back soon. :l
Salt: We just want to discuss this topic openly with willing parties that's it. No one's formulated anything to make a thread post yet so this is just brainstorming if I have to put it that way.
Florence: I'm sure they don't want our opinions to fall on deaf ears, but it's basically what we're doing here.
Danger: Everyone's consistently linking to the Happy Loving Everyone thread
Avedori: *hugs Thorn*
Danger: I haven't seen anyone consistently link to the Make Your Voice Heard!
Pegasus: Shea has come and gone. America has tons of coders
solknots: where is the space to talk about other game sites on here?
Murgy: Same Danger.
Riyo: Attention: In order to avoid our arguments falling on deaf ears I'll be copy/pasting this discussion into the suggestions forum :)))
Hummingbird: I don't think you realize the drama with shea
Hummingbird: the full scope
Riyo: So stop telling us to stop talking about it in the shoutbox, PLEASE AND THANK YOU
Pegasus: I read about it
Hummingbird: oh my god riyo
RP45: O_O
Hummingbird: a_
Pegasus: But the coders don't have to play or even care about Res
Hummingbird: a plus*
Requiem: I have mixed feelings about shea
Avedori: *blinks*
Murgy: Right, Russ, but not every coder is Shea.
Pegasus: They just have to do their job and code
Florence: Okay, I never said to stop talking about it on the shoutbox. ;A; All I said was it's not worth your time.
Avedori: *cuddles with Flor*
Riyo: I would appreciate not being told that anymore FLorence
Murgy: It's worth our time if staff is present.
Aquari: holy lord ...
RP45: omg
Riyo: It's really disheartening
Salt: I don't wanna talk about shea man the whole issue revolving him makes me sad.
Avedori: Flor is allowed to say whatever she likes, just as you are Riyo
Florence: Neither did Thorn. All we're trying to say is you can't expect everything to happen with a snap of a finger.
Salt: Imma go bathe now cya'll later
Murgy: We're not, Flor.
Avedori: Bye Salt <3
solknots: guys.... the art on F R is phenomenal... 
Riyo: And I'm saying please stop saying that to us
Graveyardfox: Yeah. Shea gives me stress dreams so can we not? xD
Danger: At this point in time
Murgy: Again, we've waited years for some sort of literal, forward progress onsite.
Danger: It's not even a snap of a finger
Hummingbird: Talking about Shea makes me pissed.
Florence: And I know, you guys aren't expecting that to happen, but the way you are talking about it makes it seem so.
TheSituation: lol
Danger: It's more like a huge 3 year line
Riyo: I'm saying that we ALL KNOW that we're wasting our time and that nothing is going to happen







Pegasus: They have said, let's talk about something else, lets talk about kittens
lolpandaftw: zen- 30 to 35 mil
FairyTailpsycho: kittys!
Hisshiss: I am uncomfortable with this discussion. I explicitly have said it.
Avedori: *hugs Flor* 
Riyo: Well guys I'll make that forum with the shoutbox log now :)))
Aquari: lol
ThornlessRose: Riyo, you too. Add me on Skype if you want to chat. My name on there is Chezzeh
Avedori: Good idea, Riyo
Murgy: Have at it, Riy.
Hummingbird: Thanks Tiyo
Florence: I'll be right back guys
Hummingbird: Riyo*
Pegasus: My boyfriend wants a Serval
Danger: You go Riyo
Danger: aren't servals illegal to own
Aquari: what the heck is up with skype??
Hummingbird: servals are illegal
ThornlessRose: I agree, Riyo, and if you want me to post any things from my shoutbox log that have been lost in time, I would be happy to.
Avedori: Pegasus, my friend owns a Serval and Savannah Hybrid
Pegasus: You can get a permit
Murgy: only in some countries >o>
Murgy: like the peruvian puff pepper
Pegasus: And we don't like in the US. 
Murgy: outlawed in america
Hummingbird: omg murgy
Pegasus: live*
Danger: you have to have a permit to own a pepper
ThornlessRose: And also, if any of you are dissatisfied with my behaviour on the shoutbox today, or ever, please feel free to submit a support ticket.
Danger: pffft
RP45: o i forgot selling achromatic gondra
Murgy: if you understand that reference i love you
Riyo: should it go in the suggestions forum or the feedback forum
Hummingbird: No but the thing is Chex
Hummingbird: We are ArescreatuAID to
FluzzMe: Selling three hatches, 125k each. Also selling a natural Drachid for 15mil! Check out my rancher.
ThornlessRose: Why, Russ?
Murgy: Riy/ Why not both?
Hummingbird: AFRAID*
Riyo: Both it i
Riyo: s
TheSituation: lol that was a perf time for that reference
Danger: i understand padafriend
Danger: i think
Murgy: If one gets deleted, so be it.
Hummingbird: because people have been censored numerous times about this
Graveyardfox: Broken smacked me down the last time I complained about awful staff behavior. 
FearaLovesyou: fluzz: ill buy hatches
Murgy: drake & josh
Hummingbird: and in some cases banned
Danger: yes i got it then
Murgy: "the peruvian...puff pepper!"
Aquari: *pats thorn* i dont blame you for any thing you did good
Graveyardfox: And later that same behavior caused a huge mess.
Riyo: That seems to be the pattern Loki :/
FluzzMe: Feara, kay~
Fizzeh: I smell revolution good fellows
ThornlessRose: Users are never banned for their opinions or for complaining about staff members.
Riyo: it's been going on since I joined the site
Avedori: *snuggles with all the staff* That was a tough situation, nice job <3
Danger: Of course they aren't
Hummingbird: Not officially.
Riyo: Being critical of staff behavior has CONSISTENTLY gotten users in trouble
Danger: They're banned for obscure reasons
Danger: like abusing a glitch
Riyo: See: when I called out Teppy for his nonsense
Hummingbird: They're banned for trolling or MAing or such
Murgy: I respect the staff for not up and quitting on the spot because even as a part of this I agree it got ridiculous after a while
Danger: yeah man :T
Murgy: But it got ridiculous for a reason
Pegasus: Did you do it respectfully? 
Murgy: there I said it
Murgy: I'm done
Florence: It's because the first rule is be respectful towards others.
Graveyardfox: I was temp banned for something I didn't do. It was facinatingly rediculous.
Riyo: I'm not talking to you anymore Pegasus
Danger: Please don't talk about that first rule
Danger: I could give a sermon on staff hypocrisy on that first rule
Avedori: Im uncomfortable >.>
Riyo: Flor: that rule seems to exempt staff
Danger: I could give a sermon on everyone's hypocrisy on that rule
Pegasus: Why Riyo? 
Hummingbird: a^
Pegasus: It's a yes or no question
Murgy: Ave, did you ever get my rmail back?
Florence: Honestly I've never seen a staff member be disrespectful
Hummingbird: aimed at danchan
ThornlessRose: Guys, play nice together
Murgy: I know it's not urgent or anything but o3o I sent
Avedori: Murgy, yup.
Fizzeh: Doing it respectfully doesn't always work
Shadly: /twiddles thumbs
Dragoon147: Hi, Pega -hugs-
Hummingbird: I've seen quite a few.
Pegasus: The only thing I'll say is "okay" and leave it at that.
Danger: can i just
Riyo: Because I don't like your tone Pegasus
Pegasus: Hi Dragoon
Danger: okay
FluzzMe: -slinks to corner-
FairyTailpsycho: flo...me neither.
Danger: I'm not even going to start
Riyo: I'm not talking to you anymore, end of story
Hummingbird: Mostly off-site.
Aquari: im being nice x.x
Murgy: Pegasus you have no right to demand answers from other users
solknots: lol Danger - you're getting firey
Hummingbird: some on-site
Pegasus: Riyo.. it's text you can't hear my tone
Florence: I think staff is just trying to do their best. 
Danger: Actually, on site too
Riyo: Flornce: Well, I'm surprised you haven't, but I have, MANY times
Murgy: THAT is disrespectful
solknots: this is fun to watch
Riyo: Bye Pegasus :)
Pegasus: Bye Riyo
Riyo: I've been harassed by a staff member because of my gender on this site
Hummingbird: Remember my poetry thread, guys?
Murgy: Sure do Russ
Pegasus: I did not know.
lolpandaftw: I don't think that anyone was being unreasonable with what they were saying, everything just got a bit out of hand, but it wasn't anyone's fault.
Florence: I'm sure if staff were being disrespectful and were caught doing so, then appropriate action would be taken.
Hummingbird: Frank harassed someone because they were ftm transgender.
FluzzMe: Russle Sprout, yeah. x3
Danger: I remember your thread about that yellow wedding dress
Fizzeh: The vast majority of staff try to do their best. The problem is that user who are polite about their concerns are not seen as a threat and therefore can be safely ignored because they won't cause a ruckus.
FairyTailpsycho: i dont even know who is staff and who is not.
Hummingbird: Broken censored out part of a poem.
ThornlessRose: Florence is correct.
Florence: But if you say them being innappropriate, report it and take a screenshot?
Hummingbird: And while I agree because I didn't even think of it.
Hummingbird: No notice at all.
Hummingbird: Someone else told me about it.
Murgy: SHOUTBOX- Can I reference Flor to a post without anyone saying anything else about it on the SB?
RP45: i really dont believe frank would do that
Riyo: I've been told by a staff member that my polite, constructive suggestions were not going to be looked at because in the past I have spoken badly about Patrick
Fizzeh: So the reason that people end up getting very irate is because being nice and respectful doesn't work.
Riyo: Murgy: Rmail it to them?
Hummingbird: ^
Avedori: Can we please not go from "Lets complain about the site" to "lets complain about staff members"? 
Avedori: Everyone is so worked up
Murgy: Ah yes, good idea.
Riyo: Avedori: It's OK to be worked up
Florence: Okay I honestly don't think complaining about things that have already happened is going to change anything.
Murgy: Flor, Thornless, you may or may not already know about this; but can I rmail you a link?
ThornlessRose: Murgy, Is it in a place that contains inappropriate material?
FearaLovesyou: sent fluzz
Murgy: No, it's onsite.
FluzzMe: Okay, guys, can we change the subject?
Riyo: Avedori: If you don't like the discussion then maybe you should leave the shoutbox :) since you told us to leave the site if we don't like it
Dragoon147: The hell is going on?
Graveyardfox: Everyone's spoken bad about patrick. Staff has spoken bad about patrick.
ThornlessRose: Because if so, it does not belong on Rescreatu at all, sb or rmail
FluzzMe: Hatching, Feara.
ThornlessRose: Murgy, skype it to me. My skype is chezzeh
Fizzeh: I quit staff because I felt that over 3 years my concerns were not listened to being nice. And so I ended up so angry that I quit to try and prove a point. lol
Florence: ...I guess I'm alright with it as long as it's site-appropriate. ^^
Avedori: I think im allowed to state that im uncomfortable...or am I not?
Murgy: It's onsite, though.
Murgy: It's on Res forums. o3o
Llama: hey guys
Aquari: OK EVERY ONE THATS ENOUGH!!!!
Riyo: Murgy can you RMail it to me? i am interested
Fizzeh: Sadly I just ended up getting my name smushed into the dirt because of it.
Florence: Llama. /snugs/
Murgy: It's not a huge deal, I just want to point something out to you if you haven't already seen it.
Murgy: Sure, Riy.
ThornlessRose: Then go for it<3
Riyo: Avedori: Then we should be allowed to state that we are uncomfortable with staff, shouldn't we?
Dragoon147: Llama o3o -hugs-
wolfspirit25: looking for Kioka/Liyure eggs, a black Liyure, and an albino Kioka :D
Fizzeh: But that's not to say that the vast majority of staff try their best.
Murgy: Actually it's kind of a big deal, but I don't want to call it a "big deal," yanno o3o;
ThornlessRose: If it's on Res, theer is no reason that it shouldn't be on the sb.
FluzzMe: Feara, natties. ;c
Fizzeh: Just a select few don't allow the changes to happen that the users want.
Murgy: I just don't want it to start another uproar.
lolpandaftw: If anyone in uncomfortable with the conversation in the SB then they shouldn't be told to leave or feel they have to.
Murgy: Nor do I want to publicly target another user.
Hummingbird: Go for it Murgy :U
Avedori: Thank you, panda
Hummingbird: oh wait
Hummingbird: nevermind
Llama: you know what i miss seeing on the sb, kittens
Hummingbird: if it's targeting someone
Florence: But if you are going, "Wow the staff user Bob is so disrespectful they make me uncomfortable." you're sort of breaking rule one.
Aquari: im NOT going to let you bash Flor or Thorn down no any onter moderator or staff 
Hummingbird: i didn't think about that
Llama: anf Fizzehs chestnuts
ThornlessRose: Things have gotten a bit out of hand again, so I'm going to ask again. is anyone uncomfortable about this conversation and wanting a convo switch?
Avedori: I am, and ive said so, but was told to go away
lolpandaftw: we're seriously arguing about arguing now, there really is no point
Florence: ...I am. >o>
Fizzeh: I'm sorry but my chestnuts don't agree with that saying staff makes you uncomfortable is against any rules at all.
Riyo: Florence how is rule 1 supposed to be enforced if we can't point out people who break it without breaking it???
FluzzMe: I am, like I've said. >-.
FluzzMe: *>->
ThornlessRose: Then let's drop the subject again, and stop arguing, please<3
Hummingbird: preach it riyo
RP45: I AM UNCOMFORTABLE with this conversation
ThornlessRose: At least on Res.
Aquari: Yes Ave and i dont like it either
ThornlessRose: on the shoutbox*** I meant
Fizzeh: That's like saying hey you're not allowed to say anything bad about your boss even if they treat you horribly or you'll get thrown out.

  
[ Chatroom Legend ]



"You must always remember that the only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing." - Alucard, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night.
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